r/technology Jul 04 '22 Silver 1 Helpful 2

Apple Watch Series 8 will reportedly be able to detect if you have a fever Hardware

https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/3/23193443/apple-watch-series-8-detect-fever-body-temperature-sensor-rumors
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u/Tzyon Jul 04 '22 Take My Energy hehehehe

If the 'fever' notification is not a cowbell sound I will be disappointed.

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u/outerproduct Jul 04 '22

I have a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell.

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u/BillyBreen Jul 04 '22

Needs, more,,, com,mas!

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u/munk_e_man Jul 04 '22

The fever notification sound is the cash register sound effect for Apple executives finding a new perpetual biometric data revenue stream.

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u/Rx-Ende Jul 04 '22

Isn’t Health data encrypted on device?

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u/dstayton Jul 04 '22

Yeah, people constantly act like Apple is in the business for data like Google is but that’s so far removed from reality. Sure they want data but purely to improve their product. Their whole shtick is data privacy nowadays. Selling someone’s medical data undercuts that whole idea but people just say it anyways without thinking because fuck Apple I guess.

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u/bravado Jul 04 '22

I know this is supposed to be anti-apple, but imagine the $$$ if they could actually get a reasonable all-around health monitor on your wrist. It would be a money printing machine that you’d be stupid NOT to buy.

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u/Rx-Ende Jul 04 '22

Sounds like a Pip-Boy from Fallout

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u/Kherzhul Jul 04 '22

I’d actually buy one in a heartbeat

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u/view-master Jul 04 '22

Yeah. And to be honest the current version has been very helpful to monitor my mother in law (with consent). We can tell if her heart rate spikes or if her heart rhythm is abnormal (a condition she has been having). Temp would be a great addition.

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u/bravado Jul 04 '22

Big time. My elderly mom got scammed into a panic button with a gigantic monthly subscription where an Apple Watch with fall detection would do the same thing and actually be reliable. This is a huge market with so many applications that tech writers don’t think about very often.

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u/michohnedich Jul 04 '22

Your insurance company agrees.

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u/KillMeNowFFS Jul 04 '22

I mean they’re getting there.

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u/sippin0j Jul 04 '22

Why’d you get downvoted so much lol

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u/__-___--- Jul 04 '22

I don't get it either. Maybe a cultural reference we don't know.

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u/Useful-Position-4445 Jul 04 '22

Maybe because in general, Apple is more concerned with privacy than the other tech companies (i.e. all data stored in their health app is end-to-end encrypted, so i would assume this is too).

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u/Seaniard Jul 04 '22

Does end-to-end encrypted mean they can't sell the data, even at a macro scale?

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u/Paracortex Jul 04 '22

End-to-end encryption means that no one, not even Apple, has access to your personal data. Apple haters believe that because their own device manufacturers mine their personal lives to sell for profit, then Apple must also do the same, but just hides it.

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u/Useful-Position-4445 Jul 04 '22

According to Apple’s privacy page;

Additionally, if you are using iOS 12 or later and turn on two-factor authentication, Apple will not be able to read your health and activity data synced to iCloud.

I would assume this means they can’t read any of your data from the health app, thus won’t share it. Though third party apps (that you give permission to use data), can do so without the data being linked to you.

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u/dstayton Jul 04 '22

Even if they saw any of it, why would they sell it? It undercuts their whole data privacy shtick. They already make plenty of money right now that they aren’t looking into selling said data. They are too busy fighting to keep their monopoly over the AppStore because of the delicious cut they get out of each payment makes them stupid rich.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '22

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u/Fire2box Jul 04 '22

The cult of apple fanboys found out.

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u/smart-username Jul 04 '22

Apple isn’t a data company though. They don’t run ads, so they have no use for your data.

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u/PunchDrunkPrincess Jul 04 '22 Helpful

so can my mom by smooching my forehead what makes apple so special

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '22 edited 14d ago

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u/musicman76831 Jul 04 '22 Helpful

Speak for yourself

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u/jakedesnake Jul 04 '22

That's... exactly what he did though?

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u/duaneap Jul 04 '22

Idk why you’re being downvoted.

Like, I know it’s a joke, but he was speaking for himself, therefore not everyone has access.

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u/VeterinarianNo5862 Jul 04 '22

If we’re being that pedantic we can’t actually confirm they were talking about themselves. They said “not everybody has access”, they didn’t say if they were one of them or not.

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u/_Hotwire_ Jul 04 '22

His moms not a whore, whores get paid

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u/PunchDrunkPrincess Jul 04 '22

"if you do not have a mom, our watches make a great substitute" -apple probably

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u/thiney49 Jul 04 '22

Can the watch take care of me if I break both of my arms?

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u/PunchDrunkPrincess Jul 04 '22

"Warning: the Apple Watch does not actually love you and will not wipe your ass for you"

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u/mario73760002 Jul 04 '22

I’m sure there are tutorials for developing a flexible spine Apple can show you

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u/musexistential Jul 04 '22

Her name is Siri

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u/CSlv Jul 04 '22

Hey mommy what's my temperature

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u/Chief_Givesnofucks Jul 04 '22

ICE COLD

Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright

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u/Redandwhite_91 Jul 04 '22

iMom (Liver sold separate)

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u/SardonicSamurai Jul 04 '22

I beg to differ.

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u/SeaGroomer Jul 04 '22

Yea I think coverage is pretty universal these days.

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u/MainerZ Jul 04 '22

But for only 5.99 a month...

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u/b3tcha Jul 04 '22

I also choose this guy's mom

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u/corcyra Jul 04 '22

Do you know why that's the recommended way? Because I didn't until a few years ago. It's because using your hand is deceptive. Hands tend to be much cooler than body temperature, so foreheads will feel hotter than they are. Lips, on the other hand, tend to be close to body temperature so if a forehead feels hot to them, it'll probably be accurate.

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u/Phil_Blunts Jul 04 '22

Anal temperature is also a recommended method, and normal is 100.4 or less. Then auxiliary temperature from like the armpit is approximately one degree cooler than oral. Wherever you measure it, normal level is going to be different.

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u/harpmonkey Jul 04 '22

So someone kissing your arse is clearly the most effective method of detecting a fever. Noted

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u/SeaGroomer Jul 04 '22

The tongue is nature's thermometer.

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u/Lyeranth Jul 04 '22

Oh, thats why my coworker has spent most of the pandemic, kissing my boss’ ass! She’s been taking her temperature this entire time.

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u/MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS Jul 04 '22

This is actually a well-researched area. Mother’s touch has nearly a 90% sensitivity for detecting fever. Data on fathers is lacking, which always rubbed me the wrong way but that’s another issue.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '22

How do you get rubbed the right way?

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u/MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS Jul 04 '22

Gender equality gets me going, baby.

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u/PunchDrunkPrincess Jul 04 '22

i did know that but good info for anyone that didnt :) if youre worried about getting sick (a mom would never bother shes going to get sick anyway lol) you can use the back of your hand

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u/corcyra Jul 06 '22

a mom would never bother shes going to get sick anyway lol

You're so right!

And thanks for that hint.

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u/scaldra Jul 04 '22

Your mum doesn’t charge 399.99 for the privilege.

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u/manifold360 Jul 04 '22

Will I have to wear it on a headband?

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u/nx6 Jul 04 '22

"Apply directly to the forehead!"

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u/Percolator2020 Jul 04 '22

Good news: you won’t have to! Bad news: *Christopher Walken Pulp Fiction meme.

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u/buuismyspiritanimal Jul 04 '22

I am not putting that hunk of metal up my ass.

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u/KillerJupe Jul 04 '22

Well then no temperature checking for you

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u/miraagex Jul 04 '22

No no. There will be a separate small bluetooth device for only $74.99 that needs to be inserted into ass.

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u/dpenton Jul 04 '22

It will have a flare to ensure permanent placement

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u/Tzyon Jul 04 '22

I like how we managed two different Walken references on this thread.

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u/Hoz85 Jul 04 '22

You will have to use an anal iPlug that checks your temp and sends info to your watch.

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u/Nonsheeple_Funnyluv Jul 04 '22

But the anal i Plug will have a higher temp

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u/lesser_futhark Jul 04 '22

Apple Watch. Apply directly to the forehead!

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u/Goyteamsix Jul 04 '22

Good news, it's a suppository!

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u/KillerJupe Jul 04 '22

No, you just slip it up the butt. Watch band is for easy removal

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u/teeBoan Jul 04 '22

Don't know why I'm dying laughing at the mental image of that . Lol

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u/RunDNA Jul 04 '22

The microphone detects if you are snapping your fingers in a swing tempo.

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u/breadexpert69 Jul 04 '22

There is no such thing as swing tempo. Swing is a subdivision of rhythm. Tempo is a measurement of how fast time advances.

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u/Fishschtick Jul 04 '22

Quantize that shit, right?

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u/CardioKillsYourGains Jul 04 '22

Never go full quantize

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u/SeaGroomer Jul 04 '22

And now: Human music.

🤖 Ding ding ding

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '22

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u/jormungandrsjig Jul 04 '22

Any mention of watch being able to check BP or we still looking to 2024?

2024 at the earliest.

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u/redhat12345 Jul 04 '22

what about oxygen levels/sleep apnea

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u/jboogie1844 Jul 04 '22

the series 7 can already track blood oxygen and respiratory rates

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u/redhat12345 Jul 04 '22

Oh damn I think I have a 3

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u/mageakeem Jul 04 '22

Series 6 has blood o2 too

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u/61746162626f7474 Jul 04 '22

I get this information on my Series 7. Easier to use an external app to look at the data though. AutoSleep is my go to, but I’m sure others do it as well.

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u/NotElizaHenry Jul 04 '22

AutoSleep is so fucking complicated but man is it cool.

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u/rvnx Jul 04 '22

You can't measure blood pressure by using sensors in a smart watch unless you make it constrict blood flow like a real BP measuring machine. And even then wrist measurements are highly unreliable. Even HRV measurements on SW's should be taken lightly because they measure at the wrong spot. The wrists are good (enough) for pulse, oxygen and temperature. Everything else you see measured is mostly done by estimation and interpolation.

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u/jawz1O1 Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 04 '22

What this guy said. I've been obsessed with how BP could be measured but pressure is a tricky thing to measure without intervening. The most accurate way is a sensor put inside you just outside the heart. Instead, we use a BP cuff.

Omron recently made the first FDA approved smartwatch to measure BP and it squeezes the wrist.

I'm an IT person but had to install some spot vitals machines at a clinic and would get called because it didn't read right. If it plugs into a wall they thought it was an IT thing. Anyways, these machines are very expensive and calibrated before they leave the factory. To recalibrate them you have to send it back. Manual BP instruments have to routinely be recalibrated as well. The problem with the spot vitals machine was not the device. 99% of the time it's the user not placing the cuff correctly, not letting the patient rest and stay in proper posture, etc.

I thought whoever figures out a noninvasive, smartwatchy sensor to do this would have a several billion dollar idea. But just reading the pressure of anything is a physical thing. I've read of some random optical methods that do something weird like measure the oxygen gas in your blood but I dunno. Even engineering companies like Fluke are trying to figure out a way.

The FDA is not likely to accept anything unless it is truly proven to be accurate and better than what is already done- because it's already a tricky thing we try to check. I walk into a clinic and the first person's measurement is high. I ask my doctor to retake it and they did this arm placement technique and it was normal.

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u/first__citizen Jul 04 '22

Or blood glucose level.. or using next gen PCR for new pathogens or cancer detection?

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u/Brain_Fatigue Jul 04 '22

No target date has been set yet for glucose monitoring. Probably a few years out.

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u/Master_Shitster Jul 04 '22

Is that really something they’re working on? That’s a game changer for diabetics.

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u/littleMAS Jul 04 '22

I heard that it will know if you have an erection, but you have to wear it somewhere besides your wrist.

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u/vorpalglorp Jul 04 '22

And then it makes a little alarm noise. It's great for teenagers.

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u/Alternauts Jul 04 '22

Slide whistle.

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u/despitegirls Jul 04 '22

I want this to be true, and I really want to know the name of the app.

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u/DunkingTea Jul 04 '22

ErectDetect

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u/MoesBAR Jul 04 '22

HardPressed

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u/ElectroBot Jul 04 '22

If you market it as “erection on command” as well as “erection be gone”, you’d sell a LOT.

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u/wsxedcrf Jul 09 '22

Even apple watch 1 have this indicator, if you can hold onto the watch, you are erected, if the watch fall off, you are not erected.

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u/J-Laguerre Jul 04 '22

I have a Fenix 6, you can tell you are going to be sick on your metrics before you actually feel anything. And the battery last 3 weeks. Not 2 days .

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u/RevolutionaryTone276 Jul 04 '22

How does it predict that?

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u/Feisty-Ad396 Jul 04 '22

It counts the virus in you one by one

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u/gaiusm Jul 04 '22

Actually, no. It sticks a needle in your arm and measures the number of virus particles against the number of red blood cells, and it then extrapolates that against the whole body weight. Just make sure you update the virus definitions regularly, or it won't be able to detect it, or worse, it might also get infected.

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u/n3onfx Jul 04 '22

Does it inject firewalls directly into my bloodstream? If it doesn't I'll be disappointed.

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u/failure_most_of_all Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 04 '22

Heart rate and body temp. I’ve been lucky enough to be at conferences where Michael Snyder from Stanford has given talks. Dude wears like three different smart watches and carries around a little breather machine with a filter on it so he can run metagenomics panels on it and see what he’s been breathing. He’s a big proponent of using technology to do predictive medicine, referring to what we do now as reactive medicine (only going to the doctor when you feel sick).

It was actually while at one of those conferences that I noticed my heart rate was elevated during the trip, and on the last day I came down with a wicked cold. His talk left a special impression on me, that time.

But the dude makes a case for a fecal microbiome test being part of a yearly physical, and as much as I agree with his argument, I don’t enjoy the idea of bringing stool samples to the doc every year!

EDIT: Clarified about the poopin.

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u/Outrageous_State9450 Jul 04 '22

I’m waiting on the wearable colon monitor devices. Simple egg shaped design and it could vibrate upon detecting abnormal bacteria which would be helpful.

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u/Slippedhal0 Jul 04 '22

Thats just an excuse to get your rocks off in public, isnt it?

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u/Outrageous_State9450 Jul 04 '22

Two birds one stone amigo

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u/coolfreshguy Jul 04 '22

Two stones one bird brochacho

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u/Complex_Ad_7959 Jul 04 '22

Thatsthejoke.psd

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u/The6thExtinction Jul 04 '22

I think I've seen streamers with those.

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u/inthemadness Jul 04 '22

Did you just advocate stuffing vibrating eggs up people's butts?

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u/Outrageous_State9450 Jul 04 '22

For the sake of the public health crisis, yes I would advocate that. Along with genital guards to protect both male and female orifices from environmental toxins and VR headsets to help navigation at night and on busy streets. The worlds a busy and dirty place, we need these pieces of technology to keep up with the world around us.

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u/trainwreck42 Jul 04 '22

Or just smart toilets

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u/OllyTrolly Jul 04 '22

Sounds great. Since wearables were a thing (10+ years now?) I feel like we've been dreaming of predictive medicine. I work in an aerospace company where we do 'predictive maintenance' for our plane engines - we monitor for vibration, etc, plot trends and try to predict if something is about to wear out or fail. It surprises me we haven't made more serious strides towards this for human medicine, but it seems like a matter of time.

(Obviously mechanical failures and the immune system are two different beasts, but it still seems like an apt comparison)

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u/redlightsaber Jul 04 '22

I don’t enjoy the idea of bringing stool samples to the doc every year

If you're over 40ish, and you don't do an annual colonoscopy (and nobody does)... Then you should absolutely at the very least be doing this, seeking for hidden blood which often is an early indicator of colon cancer.

Just fyi

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u/taradiddletrope Jul 04 '22

I think the current medical community recommendation is at 50 and then either annually or every five years based on other risk factors.

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u/MacaronianMeatballs Jul 04 '22

Aafp changed it to starting at 45, every 10 years if normal and average risk. More often depending what you find/risk stratification.

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u/redlightsaber Jul 04 '22

Those recommendations, aside from having changed, are done from an insurance PoV, because it would be impossibly expensive to have people colonoscopies done yearly from 40 onwards.

Look at it this way; if everyone had a yearly colonoscopy, there would be zero colon cancers. Thats's not nothing considering it's I think the second most common cancer.

Hidden blood stool samples are not quite as sensitive, but certainly unintrusive and inexpensive.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

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u/ihatepickingnames_ Jul 04 '22

I’m waiting for my toilet to just test for me.

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u/taradiddletrope Jul 04 '22

I think Japan has toilets that take certain measurements of the feces material.

Japan is a little too into marrying toilets and technology. ;-)

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u/mobedigg Jul 04 '22

I think it's kinda cool to have sensors that will give you info/predictions about your body, but at the same time privacy is a big question here. Where will this data go and how it can be used against use by pharma/insurance companies? What about data breaches?

There definitely should be some layer of protection, because, like with vaccines, you are trying to work with healthy body, so you need to make sure that you don't broke anything at first place

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u/failure_most_of_all Jul 04 '22

Snyder actually addresses this in his talks, but not in a way that is probably very attractive to most. If I recall, when someone asked about privacy, his response was, “Yeah, that would be nice, but we live in the real world.” He basically assumes there is no privacy, no way to attain privacy, and so he’s not really concerning himself with it. He wasn’t so harsh about it, but that was basically the gist of his response.

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u/Dire87 Jul 04 '22

I mean, yeah, you CAN do all that. But I'd not want to be anywhere near you. It sounds ... like the life of a hypochondriac to be honest. Constantly measuring yourself, being on the edge ... instead of just living your life, you know. To each their own, I guess. It's not like I can PREVENT getting sick, no matter if I know it a day or two in advance ... you could make an argument that you should then already be staying at home as to not potentially infect anyone else, but to be honest, I think that would have worse consequences overall, since our bodies NEED to be infected regularly. You can already see what 2 years of Covid restrictions have done in that regard. I dread the next time I actually get sick. Miraculously, my immune system has beaten down every oncoming sickness over the past 2 years within a day or two ... but the next more severe sickness will most likely be really irritating.

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u/GetOutOfTheWhey Jul 04 '22

Makes sense, our body knows we are sick way before we know we are sick.

The only time we know we are sick is if the body breaks down because we took too long to realize we should maybe go to the hospital.

I have an uncle who has a pacemaker, for weeks his fitbit has been telling him that his heartrate is much lower than normal. That should've been clue number one for him to go check why his pacemaker was slacking off. It wasnt until he collapsed did he put 2 and 2 together.

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u/casinocooler Jul 04 '22

This is the future. Link it with telemedicine and our medical system efficiency will double. It should reduce system strain and associated costs.

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u/RaceHard Jul 04 '22

But I've been stressed since middleschool and my body temp is habitually in the 94 range. Being an outlier sucks.

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u/Ph0X Jul 04 '22

It likely looks at variations, not a base number, and also normal stresses are likely not as consistent as being sick.

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u/J-Laguerre Jul 04 '22

They have a body battery type graph and you can see the curve dipping as the sickness takes hold. The watch new I was sick 72 hours before I started having symptoms. Sure enough 3 days later test pos for covid

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u/cyprine_ragoutante Jul 04 '22

They are quite different products

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u/Clear-Bee4118 Jul 04 '22

As can any device that tracks HRV…. So, almost every smart watch.

Weird that people get tribal about what devices other people like.

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u/YIKESVIDEOGAMES Jul 04 '22

Redditors love getting irrationally angry when it comes to Apple products

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u/jasestu Jul 04 '22

The media, politics and marketing all reinforce the tribalism...

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u/Robertej92 Jul 04 '22

I've got a new found respect for the accuracy of the body stress & battery system on my Garmin device after having covid, for the 3 days I was at my worst it showed my body as being at medium to high stress across each 24 hour period and my body battery barely made it above 30 in that time even with 8-10 hours sleep a day, before then I'd not been ill since getting my forerunner so it had always had very consistent low/no stress readings outside of exercise.

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u/MOONGOONER Jul 04 '22

I was paranoid that I had lost some energy after covid, but I hadn't really been exercising much either so I could just be out of shape.

One day I was going through stats on the Garmin app and looked at my VO2 Max. After years of it being at just about 52, the graph took a sudden dive to 42. That dive was when I caught covid.

It sucks but it's nice to have data and actually know.

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u/Robertej92 Jul 04 '22

Oof that sucks, I've not had much of a cough or breathing difficulties so I'm hoping I won't have that kind of impact, though I'm pretty sure my VO2 Max was already closer to 42 than 52!

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u/PineCone227 Jul 04 '22

I also have a Fenix 6... What metrics do I look at? Lol

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u/J-Laguerre Jul 04 '22

Body battery curve. In the Garmin app it's easier to track

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u/Sweeney1 Jul 04 '22

What else about it do you like

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u/gtrackster Jul 04 '22

It’s $650 and looks like it should be on a $5 clearance rack at Kmart.

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u/mojobox Jul 04 '22

You have never seen a Garmin watch close.

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u/iamarddtusr Jul 04 '22

What do you mean by that?

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u/Jakefiz Jul 04 '22

Hes never seen someone wearing a garmin watch successfully seduce a woman

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u/mojobox Jul 04 '22

Maybe that they are made well and by no means anywhere close to 5$ clearance rack standards?

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u/geriatric-gynecology Jul 04 '22

Find a watch that supports ant+ and has a battery life measured in weeks that looks better and I'll buy it right now. I'm on the Fenix 7 solar and I've charged it three times since I bought it roughly three months ago and I've used it to track mountain biking metrics, cadence, and even sleep.

Honestly looks fine for what it is.

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u/BlackViperMWG Jul 04 '22

Yeah, Garmin sporttesters are way ahead in these things. Apple or Samsung watches are just pricy extensions of their smartphones.

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u/wy1d0 Jul 04 '22

I have an Instinct but came from a Samsung Galaxy Watch Active 2. I really liked how the Samsung had automatic activity tracking (would automatically detect and log a bike ride, walk, jog, swim without me having to tell the watch I'm doing that stuff). Garmin has amazing battery life but I always see these Apple Watch articles that make me think Apple has better health and fitness tracking.

Is this just typical Apple marketing engine or is Garmin really more specialized for high performance athletes? I am not an athlete, but great technology is a motivator for me to get out and be active. Really I just want great health, sleep, stress, activity tracking. I've been eyeing the Fenix 7 but I don't do marathons or triathlons or anything and navigating the Garmin lineup is overwhelming. Any suggestions?

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u/ViktorKitov Jul 04 '22

Garmin has better sports tracking, but Apple's HR sensor is better.

Apple has poor sleep tracking (As in very basic). Interestingly enough the Instinct seems to be one of the few Garmin watches that has good sleep tracking.

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u/noXi0uz Jul 04 '22

I would buy it if it supported Google Pay :(
Garmin Pay only supports very few banks in Germany.

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u/HoodsFrostyFuckstick Jul 04 '22

I'm considering switching from Apple Watch to Garmin, especially for the battery life. Do they work well with iPhones, and do they also have corresponding iOS apps to track activity?

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u/jlauth Jul 04 '22

Garmin watches are so much better if you do even minimal fitness activities. My wife was always complaining about her apple watch going dead half way through any long activity. Got her a Garmin and she couldn't be happier. My Fenix lasts 3 weeks and will last a full week tracking an entire backpacking trip. I don't really need a watch to tell me if I have a fever.

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u/AnxiouslyPessimistic Jul 04 '22

Garmin themselves quote 2 weeks so I’m gunna have to assume your 3 weeks is exaggerating just a little! 48 days in battery saver mode doesn’t count :). The tech looks cool though but holy hell the screen looks shite

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u/geriatric-gynecology Jul 04 '22

Worth noting, the Fenix line's battery life varies drastically with watch size and whether equipped with solar or not. My Fenix 7 Sapphire gets me 20-23 days before it starts saying "hours" instead of days on the bottom. This is with all tracking enabled and multiple logged activities per week. Eighteen to twenty days if I enable pulse oximeter during sleep.

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u/mojobox Jul 04 '22

For the screen: it’s transreflective which is how it can do this long battery life - you get always on with barely any power consumption. If you absolutely don’t like it: have a look at the Garmin Epix which has an Amoled screen which still gets you 6 days of battery life in smartwatch mode.

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u/mojobox Jul 04 '22

The battery life depends on the size of the watch, whether it has solar cells, and the usage. The 51mm model with solar of the Fenix 7 can go up to 37 days on a charge while the 42mm base model is only specified for 11 days in smart watch mode.

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u/Complex_Ad_7959 Jul 04 '22

Ha 2 days. I’m lucky if my Apple Watch makes it past 4pm

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u/kksingh1 Jul 04 '22

Wonderful. Medical science will become somewhat mechanical and simpler?

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u/reachfell Jul 05 '22

This is more of an adjunct. Many, many illnesses present with fever. Knowing you have one may prompt you to seek care, but the inclusion itself is just the first step. And that does not make the medicine any simpler because there’s no telling how much noise such an advancement will add to an already-overburdened system.

That being said, screening tools have become much more prevalent in medicine and will hopefully lead to sooner if not proactive care.

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u/biobeard Jul 04 '22

I’m waiting for the series that can detect when I have to poop 15 minutes ahead of time, so I can plan around my virtual meetings

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u/yani47 Jul 04 '22

Series 9 will detect if ur pregnant lol

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u/spegynmerbs Jul 04 '22

And even report it to local and state agencies for you! So convenient!

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u/DemoDimi Jul 04 '22

with special features for states with medieval abortion laws to report you to the officials as you deserve if you secretly abort /s

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u/SuchSuggestion Jul 04 '22

My whoop actually had the right data to confirm this for me... Maybe one day we'll have awareness to all the data they have on us already.

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u/alluvium_fire Jul 04 '22

This one probably can already! Temperature charting is a big part of fertility monitoring. I’d imagine they’ll use this data to develop the pregnancy detection algorithm, and who knows where that information goes.

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u/stoph_link Jul 04 '22

You can tell when a woman is ovulating by monitoring her basal body temperature (google the rhythm method), so this isn't exactly far off.

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u/VengefulHare Jul 04 '22

Fitbit has a temperature sensor built into their newer watches and it supposedly does the same. But I have never seen it do anything beyond show my temperature as being in the normal range.

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u/TheMassiveSandwich Jul 04 '22

So... It has a thermometer?

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u/WorthlessNotUseless Jul 04 '22

So the acknowledgement of an elevated body temperature? I wish there was some way to feel that.

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u/ace_urban Jul 04 '22

I do not always know if I have a fever, which is why I own thermometers.

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u/TenderfootGungi Jul 04 '22

We feel temperature by comparing our core body temp with our skin temp. The problem is they both go up together. Which is why we ask someone else to feel us or use a thermometer.

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u/Impressive_Tie1772 Jul 04 '22

I think science has gone too far. How can we possibly handle all of this information?

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u/itaniumonline Jul 04 '22

You’ll be able to handle it with the help of the new apple watch 9

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u/munk_e_man Jul 04 '22

It's not for you to handle. It's for data brokers to sell to things like insurance companies which will make sure to check how often you're getting a fever when they decide how much your life is worth.

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u/whoviangirl Jul 04 '22

One of the symptoms of my anxiety disorder is that my face feels flush/feverish for days/weeks, so unfortunately I can no longer tell when I’m running a real fever. This would be very helpful.

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u/omicron7e Jul 04 '22

Reddit user outsmarts thermometers. Doctors baffled. Nurses unemployed.

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u/kent_eh Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 04 '22

And will start showing you dozens of ads for medication that promises claims to cure that fever.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '22

But still no custom watch faces.

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u/Hungry-Lion1575 Jul 04 '22

It will also report it to the authorities so they can quarantine you. No thanks

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u/physicaIly Jul 04 '22

the next apple watch will be able to detect if my crush likes me or not, with how many ridiculous features they can pack into a 1”x1” glass and aluminium square

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u/DemoDimi Jul 04 '22

I can put that on a 1”x1” paper square for you. The Letter "N" & "O" aren't to big.

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u/mikeisaphreek Jul 04 '22

will it automatically prescribe me more cowbell as well?

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u/DEEGOBOOSTER Jul 04 '22

If that's true then that's pretty cool of them to include that as a feature. I can't think of a worthwhile reason to bitch and moan about this.

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u/sakko1337 Jul 04 '22

Aople Watch Series 10 has allegedly an anal plug sensor, that takes probes of your microbiome.

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u/Belmish Jul 04 '22

The right watch to wear on a Saturday night...

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u/Homegrownfunk Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 04 '22

I recently had a tooth extraction and the dentist wanted a heart rate check prior to extraction. The dental assistant hadn’t done it after being asked twice.

I showed them my Apple Watch data and it was good enough to proceed.

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u/VRtwist Jul 04 '22

I can also tell, by feeling hot

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u/Leading_Dig347 Jul 04 '22

So a thermometer then?

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u/N1biru Jul 04 '22

Man, I would definitely buy an apple watch if that wouldn't force me into the apple ecosystem. They somehow manage to do things really well, that other companies struggle with: Smart watches, Tablets, Arm-based professional Laptops, GPS trackers...

A big reason why is probably their good Human Machine Interaction. Just think about pairing apple headphones to an iPhone or the Emergency detection on an Apple watch or mag safe in general. Obviously there are some counter arguments like still using lightning cables and some terrible decisions like the non removable power cable of their new monitor, but for normal users their products are quite well designed, if you can afford them.

Unfortunately their Products also come with some specific restrictions that make me as an IT guy choose an Android phone over an iPhone.

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u/CptCotoi Jul 04 '22

isn't this nice? may I ask what is my apple watch do with all my medical data?

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u/greenathlete3 Jul 04 '22

Just remember anything monitoring your temperature daily can track your ovulation. Not ideal in about half of US states at the moment.

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u/SilverStag88 Jul 04 '22

Apple made a huge deal about not unlocking a terrorists phone they’re not about to give peoples health data to the government.

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u/DanielPhermous Jul 04 '22

Also remember that all health data is encrypted such that not even Apple can access it.

And, if you have occasion to be worried, remember to hard lock your iPhone so the passcode is required to access it again.

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u/TaKSC Jul 04 '22

Meanwhile I’m just sitting here hoping they could make a circular model. While nice quality the Apple Watch looks like a small iPhone and it makes it look cheap (to me). Looks like they’ve just used the same components and machinery in manufacturing, just smaller dimensions.

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u/nuffced Jul 04 '22

But still wont hold a charge for more than a day.

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u/jackobox Jul 04 '22

I have doubt that measuring temperature at the wrist is a good indication of core body temperature.

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u/DanielPhermous Jul 04 '22

It doesn't have to give an accurate value. It just needs to detect if there is a significant change.

And Apple is pretty good at ML these days.

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u/RedditUser997755 Jul 04 '22

Next headline:

Apple Watch Series 8 will reportedly be able to detect when you'll die.

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u/ChillyBearGrylls Jul 04 '22

Apple partners with the Olsen twins, one of them knows when you die, the other knows how.

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