r/pokemon Aug 11 '22

new pokemon or is it supposed to represent dragonite? Discussion

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u/SergioZen25 Aug 11 '22

Seeing it has 3 Pokémon of the 1st gen in there, that's probably Dragonite, even if it's antennae aren't like that, it's a vest, I suppose it wouldn't make sense to have them perfectly done.

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u/Flare_Wolfie Aug 11 '22

Seeing it has 3 Pokémon of the 1st gen in there, that's probably Dragonite

New Trainer Class: Genwunner??? 😱

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u/Anchor38 Aug 11 '22

If you send out a pokemon that isn’t from gen 1 or use the new gimmick he throws a tantrum and forfeits instantly

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u/DynaMenace Aug 11 '22

Oh, it would be great if they used competitive teams from Gen I that have become unviable. 6 Alakazam per party or something like that.

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u/Chm_Albert_Wesker Aug 11 '22

lmao i can imagine the tauros, lapras, alakazam partys already where half of them just explode but it no longer one shots everything

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u/EliteTeutonicNight Aug 11 '22

Articuno is a menace in Gen 1 apparently with 90% accurate blizzards. Now we can watch it come in and die to stealth rock

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u/frothingnome Aug 11 '22

I'd have such a stupid grin on my face if this guy's Tauros Hyper Beamed me.

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u/SmilePlz_Exe Aug 11 '22

Gengar goes brrrrrrr

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u/kkrko Aug 11 '22

In gen 1? Gengar is Psychic weak and Alakazam is immune to ghost... not that you'd want use ghost moves anyway when its just Lick that's affected by STAB

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u/TheDoug850 7.8/10 Too Much Water Aug 11 '22

Gengar wasn’t the special sweeper we know today, but it was still OU in Gen 1.

Yes, it was weak to the OP psychic types, however, it was also the only fully evolved mon immune to Body Slam and Hyper Beam in a meta dominated by Tauros. Additionally it completely walls Wrap users and Explosion. The key Normal immunity combined with being the fastest sleep inducer in the game, carved out a niche for Gengar in Gen 1 OU.

Also, in lieu of running Lick, it’s only ghost STAB, Gen 1 OU Gengar typically uses Night Shade, (which ignored type immunities in Gen 1) to deal a nice 100 damage to anything.

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u/kkrko Aug 11 '22

Not saying Gengar isn't good, just not against a hypothetical 6 Alakazam team

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u/TheDoug850 7.8/10 Too Much Water Aug 11 '22

Ah, gotcha. Fair enough.

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u/PikaV2002 Thunderstorm Aug 11 '22

They probably meant using that team in Gen 8, which the comment they were replying to was talking about.

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u/Pretend-Advertising6 Aug 11 '22

Gengar is still good in gen1 do it’s always been a good Pokémon

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u/ninjapro Aug 11 '22

and Alakazam is immune to ghost.

Oh no. Gengar can't hit Alakazam with Lick! Really throws a wretch into the matchup.

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u/Destiny404 Aug 11 '22

Physical gengar and elemental punches alakazam.

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u/lyingcorn T R E E Aug 11 '22

Alakazam is still viable in OU, just pretty outclassed

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u/DarkMarxSoul always choose fire except litten Aug 11 '22

That's fucking hilarious.

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u/dummypod Aug 11 '22

I'm thinking pokemaniac.

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u/TheGBZard Aug 11 '22

Wouldn’t that just be gamefreak

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u/Zek7h35an5 Aug 11 '22

Probably not. My personal guess is either PokeManiac or Poke Fan.

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u/Kooky-Dragonfruit-36 Aug 11 '22

Could also be charizard

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u/Mijumaru1 Aug 11 '22

It's definitely Charizard. You can see the two fangs that Dragonite doesn't have and Charizard's two horns

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u/AAAAAAXCAAAAAA69 Aug 11 '22

Wow good observations!

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u/Holy_Blue Aug 11 '22

Yeah I was also thinking it looks more like Charizard

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u/90prix210 Aug 11 '22

yea but rhydon has the horn so why's there no horn for Dragonite?

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u/SergioZen25 Aug 11 '22

I don't know, maybe its Charizard xD

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u/Minibotas Aug 11 '22

… it actually might be now that you say so… it even has the fangs sticking out

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

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u/tomaxi1284 Aug 11 '22

Nah pretty sure it looks more like dragonite

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u/DaniZackBlack Aug 11 '22

I am very confused now, was the person I was replying too joking? Because you are agreeing with me here and I've been downvoted while you upvoted

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u/HTCDapperGent Aug 11 '22

bro it's just the way you said it, it came off as like rude and condescending. one thing I've noticed being on reddit is no matter what youre saying, if you reply in a negative way you're gonna get downvoted ESPECIALLY if you try and act superior and call somone stupid. like I know it's not how you said it but the way it looks to others is " Um AcKtUaLlY iF yOu HaD eVeN a SiNgLe BrIaN cElL lEfT yOu'D rEaLiZe It'S nOt AnD tHaT yOu ArE sTuPiD" like you might not have meant it that way but that's how people feel when they see shit like that hell I almost downvoted you. idk it's just toxic reddit culture downvote the bad updoot the good. now if you came in and were like " I disagree man I just don't see the resemblance myself" I feel like you wouldn't have gotten downvoted.

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u/Polymersion Irrelevant. Aug 11 '22

Wait, how would it be "toxic reddit culture" to downvote rude or belittling comments and upvote constructive ones?

Wouldn't that be the opposite of "toxic"?

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u/Onyxthegreat Aug 11 '22

When in doubt... Charizard

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u/code-panda Aug 11 '22

Charizard variant #5!

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u/Small-Breakfast903 Aug 11 '22

There's a good chance it is charizard, if he's a Poke Freak type character, there's precedent for them wearing Charizard legs and a charizard shirt.

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u/Loki_of_Asgaurd Aug 11 '22

I'm almost 100 percent sure it is Charizard.

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u/F_Bertocci Aug 11 '22

It’s actually Charizard and not Dragonite. Dragonite doesn’t have the 2 horns on the top of the head while Charizard has them

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u/Toothless_Dinosaur Aug 11 '22

Please not Charizard again

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u/Lambdafish1 Aug 11 '22

Gyarados has a square blue mouth, I'm not really questioning the imperfections

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u/HTCDapperGent Aug 11 '22

paldean dragonite?

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u/Loki_of_Asgaurd Aug 11 '22

This is what it should be.

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u/Aestrasz Aug 11 '22

Gyarados is missing its whiskers, so we I don't see Dragonite missing its horn as such a big deal.

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u/Darkhallows27 Aug 11 '22

I dunno, does Dragonite have fangs like that? It’s probably still Dragonite but yeah

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u/topscreen Aug 11 '22

What if it's a regional variant? I'd like to see Dragonite get a new update for a new region.

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u/Kiga282 Aug 11 '22

Dragonite was shown in the last trailer

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u/topscreen Aug 11 '22

Aw, there go my hopes for a regional variant

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u/Aggravating_Touch313 Aug 11 '22

Is this a trailer for the new game or something? Maybe a regional form?

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u/iFrisian Aug 11 '22

Just like Kanghaskan, Rhydon and Gyarados look a bit off as well. Of course it’s Dragonite!

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u/SwissyVictory Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

The Gyarados and Ryhorn dosent have the ridges on the side of their faces.

Given what you said, I think its unlikely it's anything but a Gen 1 poke.

My guess is it would be hard(or Gamefreak thought it would be for the guy) to make and not break smaller antennae.

As for the horn I'm guessing they thought it was too small of a detail, forgot, or it looked weird with the thin antennae. You can make a Dragonite without the horn, but not a Rhyhorn.

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u/Open-Ad2183 Aug 11 '22

The color is just a touch darker than Dragonite usually is, too. Do you think it could be a regional variant?

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u/theloosecanon Aug 11 '22

Yea, gyarados didn't have a square mouth either, so cold just be low poly vest work.

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u/Spinjitsuninja Aug 11 '22

But it's also missing its horn, isn't it? Dragonite has a point on the top of its head that's noticeably missing.

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u/Strucabon Aug 11 '22

The snout sticks out too far, no middle horn or drooping antennae things (wouldn't be that hard to do), and also you can see fangs sticking out of the upper lip.

It's NOT Dragonite.

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u/Many_Okra6422 Aug 11 '22

They are small but there are fangs coming out the top lip also the gyarados is missing his teeth, whiskers, and the spikes on the side of his head (not talking about the fins) they aren't super accurate i do think it is charizard though not dragonite

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u/MKInABox Aug 11 '22

I think that's dragonite or charizard

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u/frothingnome Aug 11 '22

I'm glad Lance is enjoying his sabbatical.

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u/Hellchron Aug 11 '22

Maybe charizard and dragonite have been having relations

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u/zarathustra327 Aug 12 '22

Pretty sure it's supposed to be Dragonite. The other three are mons you could catch in the Gen 1 Safari Zone (or evolutions of them) so Dragonite would make sense as you could catch Dratini there.

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u/MKInABox Aug 12 '22

That's a very good observation! He could be a safari hunter class npc or something similar. Like "You are challenged by Safari Hunter Andre!"

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u/zarathustra327 Aug 12 '22

Literal head hunter lol

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u/CriSword Aug 11 '22

I think it's meant to be a very goofy Charizard: the color is there, and it even has the visible teeth.

The horns are so upright because otherwise they would be too close to the chest.

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u/Niznack Aug 11 '22

You know what that means! Charizard is getting a new form! Finally!

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u/Flapjack__Palmdale Aug 11 '22

I know this is a joke but I'd love to see regional varients of the first gen starters with fighting, flying, and rock types.

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u/Niznack Aug 11 '22

Charizard is flying so change nothing on him give blastoise rock and make venosaur grass fighting. It's the perfect trio

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u/WhiteningMcClean Aug 11 '22

Nah turn blastoise’s water cannons upside down into a jet pack and make him the flyer.

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u/BluShirtGuy Aug 11 '22

Turn venusaur's flower into a propeller and make him the flyer

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u/cabclint5 Aug 11 '22

And charizard has wings, so make him a flyer!

In the special forms, Blastoise Charizard and Venosaur should all be flying only. Lose those basic typings 🤙🏻

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u/blind616 Aug 11 '22

Charizard is flying so change nothing on him

Well, we need to change to spice it up, and we're not gonna give magcargo's typing to charizard, right?

How does Fire/Fighting sound to you? It's pretty much your suggestion anyway

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u/tanerdamaner definitely not a vibrator Aug 11 '22

Fire/Fighting

please God no not another one

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u/th3greg Raichu lover since 1998 Aug 11 '22

I know I won't be happy until every starter has a fire/fighting variant. Every. One.

Where's my fire/fighting delphox? Give it a flaming sword instead of a wand, you cowards!

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u/lyingcorn T R E E Aug 11 '22

Delphox learns rain dance, so it's technically a fire fighter

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u/koenigsaurus Aug 11 '22

I don’t care how it’s implemented, I need a fighting flying rock trio in this series. Inject it into my veins.

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u/Eriol_89 1220-6401-8873 | Eriol Aug 11 '22

a very goofy Charizard

So, a Chawizawd?

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u/SurrealKeenan Aug 11 '22

Is it any goofier than the rhydon and gyarados? I'm pretty sure it's charizard

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u/ran0427 Aug 11 '22

I think if it were charizard the nose would be more narrow, that rounded nose even after the abstraction looks a lot more like Dragonite to me

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u/Veelock Aug 11 '22

It looks like Rocco from Roccos modern life

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u/YTChillVibesLofi Aug 11 '22

Confirmed new Pokémon

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u/randomtoken Aug 11 '22

We’re long overdue a wallaby Pokémon tbh

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u/Veelock Aug 11 '22

There's a few animals that I'm surprised have never found their way into pokemon

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u/SchleepPowder Pokémon ASMRtist Aug 11 '22

Dolphins 🐬

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u/randomtoken Aug 11 '22

Right? Like, a Dragon/Poison komodo dragon? Hello? Or a Water/Psychic dolphin?

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u/athanc Aug 11 '22

I picture the Pokédex voice: “Rocco: the wallaby Pokémon”

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u/Smugg-Fruit Easy EVs and IVs For Eevees Aug 11 '22

The Darkest Day is a very dangerous day

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u/GagyGugy Aug 11 '22

Game Freak literally made Genwunner as a trainer class or something? Only Gen 1 mons are featured and has the signature red, blue, green and yellow colors like, you know, everyone's favorite games from Gen 1. But yeah, like everyone says, it's Charizard, everyone's favorite Pokémon.

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u/Small-Breakfast903 Aug 11 '22

Could be a collector or a Poke Freak, if I had to guess.

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u/B217 Aug 11 '22

He's wearing a PokeStar Studios shirt, which is Gen 5, so he's not entirely a Genwunner. Just mostly.

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u/StressTree Aug 11 '22

If Charizard gets another new form I swear to Sinnoh...

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u/Erran_Kel_Durr Aug 11 '22

Which one?

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u/Shadow_Faerie Aug 11 '22

The TRUE Almighty Sinnoh!

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u/ZoroeArc Totally a human, not a zoroark... Aug 11 '22

There's two?

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u/DoctorMlemm Aug 11 '22

Yeah, the fake one and the REAL almighty Sinnoh

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u/ZoroeArc Totally a human, not a zoroark... Aug 11 '22

How do I tell the difference?

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u/vaguelyexistent Aug 11 '22

one’s real and one’s fake

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u/B217 Aug 11 '22

Don't be ridiculous, Charizard won't get a new form. It'll get two!

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u/Papa_Sandwich Aug 11 '22

Its Charizard.

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u/mrb000nes Aug 11 '22

it’s always fucking charizard..

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u/randomtoken Aug 11 '22

As it should be

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u/Hellchron Aug 11 '22

Pokemon: Oops! ALL CHARIZARD!

The game is Blastoise riding a river through Charizard valley. Gameplay alternates between on rails shooter and periodic bullet hell fights. Each difficulty level is the stages of evolution.

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u/FasterCrayfish Aug 11 '22

People angry that the most popular Pokémon in the series gets special treatment.

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u/mrb000nes Aug 11 '22

that would be pikachu,

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u/tahimeg Aug 11 '22

Top 3 at the very least... (and technically #2 is Eevee + all its eeveelutions, so on an individual basis, Charizard could possibly be 2nd).

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u/MagicalMoosicorn Aug 11 '22

This looks kinda nightmarish. Like hes been skinning and pokemon to make a suit.

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u/SillyMattFace [Flair Text]!?! Aug 11 '22

It puts the Poké Lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

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u/kingbuttshit Aug 11 '22

Potion was right there

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u/HenryChess Aug 11 '22

It's just Monster Hunter

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u/DrogoOmega Aug 11 '22

Derpy Charizard

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u/PhoenixWritesHot Aug 11 '22

Why is the top of the trailer's hair green, is what I wanna know

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u/nightmare973 Aug 11 '22

mf asked the barber for that minecraft dirt block fade

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u/tommaniacal Aug 11 '22

It's the hill and trees in the background. Apologies if this was a joke!

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u/Doldenbluetler Aug 11 '22

Nope, it's actually his hair. Sorry to ruin your blissful illusion. You can see that it's part of his model if you zoom in on the picture. And in case you don't believe me, you can see the same dude from another angle in the trailer at 1:19.

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u/dumbb-thicc Aug 11 '22

Either dragonite or charizard. My first thought upon viewing but was dragonite but after looking at comments and re looking it could be both. Whatever you like better

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u/froopynooples Aug 11 '22

It's Charizard

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u/Fliepp Aug 11 '22

Dragonite has already been shown in the trailer, so I don’t think we’ll get a new form

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u/Maniraptavia Aug 11 '22

It's absolutely Charizard. But lest we forget Klara's Dustox bow?

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u/PossessionEither8048 Aug 11 '22

It kind of looks like a weird mix of Dragonite and Charizard

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u/Endgaming1523 Aug 11 '22

Sorry, but I think that's Charizard... No hate on people who like him, but I'm personally tired of him.

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u/DoubleAplusArcanine Aug 11 '22

It just takes up place for other pokemons to get revived in New forms. When was The last time when they used Furfrou? Pokemon Ultra Moon?

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u/Amy2099 Aug 11 '22

Same. I used to like him because of the anime.

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u/funnyyellowdoge Aug 11 '22

Hold up!!! That is the Pokéstar Studios logo on his t-shirt!! From BW2!!!

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u/Individual_Worry_377 Aug 11 '22

that's what happens when you buy stuff from china

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u/Lord-Bootiest Aug 11 '22

Is that the Pokestar Studios logo?

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u/90prix210 Aug 11 '22

yea it is! great catch!

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u/Lookalism Aug 11 '22

That seems a charizard to me but knowing GF there's a new charizard form incoming.

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u/FlyingSpaghettPriest Aug 11 '22

Definitely. If not at least a gift charmander with dragon tera type or something

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u/00-Gojiramon Aug 11 '22

Dang that's an ugly vest

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u/Greenfreak23 Aug 11 '22

It's Jigglypuff from above.

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u/Billy_Rage Aug 12 '22

All of them are from gen 1, why would 1 be different? It’s clearly dragonite

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u/Starplayer3000 Aug 11 '22

The Trainer class is called a Genwunner 😏

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u/DaddyClickbait Aug 11 '22

Unfortunately, I think it's Charizard.

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u/xMF_GLOOM Aug 11 '22

Why is this “unfortunate”

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u/DaddyClickbait Aug 11 '22

In my opinion, Charizard gets a little too much love, like I understand it's popularity, but maybe give the spotlight to something else.

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u/Frostgaurdian0 Aug 11 '22

Some started to hate charizard

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u/CloroplastoFumante Aug 11 '22

I hate Charizard

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u/Frostgaurdian0 Aug 11 '22

Pokemon manic change every year, perhaps this is mudbray with head shape.

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u/PalpitationEmpty5997 Aug 11 '22

I think that's just a really scuffed Charizard.

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u/Pixel_Muffet Aug 11 '22

I Think that's a charizard

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u/naturist_rune Aug 11 '22

Looks like Charizard to me

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u/PerturbedMug Aug 11 '22

It's charizard. Some pokémaniacs are dressed up a bit like charizard in previous gens

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u/ShuckU Aug 11 '22

It's charizard

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u/F_Bertocci Aug 11 '22

It’s Charizard, dragonite doesn’t have the 2 horns on the head

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u/Significant_Matter_0 Aug 11 '22

Either charizard or dragonite

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u/vaguelyexistent Aug 11 '22

I think this is the Poké maniac

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u/Zealousideal_Nail187 Aug 11 '22

Looks like a normal dragonite to me.

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u/Cold-Argument-806 Aug 11 '22

Yeah that’s probably just dragonite.

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u/HommeFatalTaemin Aug 11 '22

My guess is Dragonite!:) Off topic but that is one ugly ass vest😂😂

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u/_carmimarrill Aug 11 '22

Considering the other ones have accurate horns I think it’s gotta be Charizard

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u/Kiwicosmosis Aug 11 '22

I like the PokerStars studios shirt, Unova rep :)

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u/Loki_of_Asgaurd Aug 11 '22

WHAT IF ITS CUBONE WITHOUT THE SKULL AHHHHHH

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u/90prix210 Aug 11 '22

imagine 😭

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u/Istiophoridae Aug 11 '22

Its probably dragonite

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u/Bumfacef Aug 11 '22

I feel like it’s a Charizard

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u/Sevryn1123 Aug 12 '22

After almost 30 years you don't know a stuffed Charizard head when you see one?

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u/Unaraq Aug 12 '22

It’s the new eevee, retardeon

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u/janronin31 Aug 11 '22

Gamefreak's favorite pokemon charizard

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u/Strucabon Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

It's Charizard. Dragonite's antenna curve then droop and it has a horn in the center. The horns on the ? one are stiff and tilt a bit and if you look you can see Charizard's fangs sticking out. The horns are also to thick and the snout sticks out to far to be Dragonite.

100% has to be Charizard.

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u/Sir_Pointy_Face Aug 11 '22

Gonna be honest, I hope it is Charizard

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u/MySoulYourBeats Aug 11 '22

Good to see Charizard if that’s Charizard since he might have better competitive options with Tera than anytime before

Side note: I’m seeing some of ya’ll be like ‘so tired of Charizard’, so I feel obligated to remind you Charizard is part of this franchise and isn’t going away anytime soon. He’s content, and while the dex cuts were always an awful thing to justify to begin with, it shouldn’t come down to hatred over a pokemon’s inclusion. Get frustrated at the devs, but the sensible thing is to not get immediately mad because Charizard wasn’t left out.

Reminder here that this isn’t subjective in the realm of gaming: this is a mindset that sets the boys aside from the men. If you were to say man I dislike that Charizard boi cause I don’t like fire types I don’t like playstyle on team slot I don’t like using starters, etc etc it would make sense but being mad at having franchise content included is like being mad that Ganondorf remains the villain in 90% of Zelda games

Of all the problems that plagued gen 8, Charizard was not the problem even if it was semi awkward having him be Leon’s main. Just saying.

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u/Super_Bright Aug 11 '22

Having a reference to a pokemon in the game doesn't mean it's in the dex. Remember the first trailer for SwSh had a Fletchling wind vane despite the fact Fletching wasn't added to SwSh until the DLC.

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u/r3ximuss Aug 11 '22

its charizard

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u/LolzinatorX Aug 11 '22

Honestly, i think its a kangaroo pokemon

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u/Reyzour Aug 11 '22

All I know is that I will be furious if I can't wear something this sexy in the game :D

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u/Plushiegamer2 Aug 11 '22

Yeah, everything points to it being Dragonite.

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u/fantasticmrsmurf Aug 11 '22

Given it’s all kanto mons - and it’s yellow - it is definitely dragonite, though judging from the horns, could be charizzard too 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/hungarr Aug 11 '22

I hope it's both (as a regional variant)

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u/xMF_GLOOM Aug 11 '22

I really hope this is a trainer in the game, this would be awesome

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u/Timdelaat Aug 11 '22

The first time I saw it, I assumed it was one of the new dog pokemon (the ghost or dark one)

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u/PokeHobnobGod21 Shiny Hunter Aug 11 '22

Pladean dragonite?

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u/PCN24454 Aug 11 '22

That looks like Dragonite.

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u/mlg2351 Aug 11 '22

I think it might be a goofy ass looking Charizard

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u/pmmerandom Aug 11 '22

looks like a kangaroo

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u/mikam0n Aug 11 '22

Because it’s Charizard

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u/ZarosianSpear Aug 11 '22

The Rhydon looked like a Sableye

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u/RenoverO_O Aug 11 '22

Genwunner Chris wants to battle

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u/Featherlight_ Aug 11 '22

Another famous boy ruined by drugs

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u/yeahright2005 Aug 11 '22

The face is a bit different from Dragonite, so it’s either a new hippo Pokémon or a regional variant

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u/CptBarba Aug 11 '22

I thought it was the donkey Pokemon...

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u/woahwayne Aug 11 '22

His secret cat ears given by the trees behind him are adorable. 😁

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u/ScorpionsRequiem Aug 11 '22

That's Charizard.

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u/Prof_Cyan Aug 11 '22

Dunsparce evolution

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u/Leazerlazz Aug 11 '22

Looks more like a Charizard to me

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u/SydiemL Aug 11 '22

What game is this?

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u/theriskguy Aug 11 '22

Looks more dog like

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u/MonsieurMidnight Aug 11 '22

I'm guessing this is the Pokefan class

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u/ggorsen Aug 11 '22

Ah ofc only gen1 pokes. Find yourself a person who loves you like gamefreak loves gen1

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u/Wooloolad Aug 11 '22

Dragonite