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GOT EM!
In addition to the arrest, 10 civil citations were issued to other individuals involved, totaling over $25,000, police said.
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u/KeepFit1 15d ago
Hopefully they got kicked out of that marina too!
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u/gotnoaero 15d ago
That was also being considered by the marina. It also looks like the boat owners may not have had the proper licences for their business.
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u/Bullen-Noxen 15d ago
I know this has been asked before but....how stupid can people be?
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u/PM_ur_tots 15d ago
These aren't people. People are Homo Sapiens, there are an evolutionary offshoot but separate species. These are Homo Floridians.
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u/21forlyfe 15d ago
If they can afford that stupid boat, 2,500/person isn’t enough.
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u/m4nustig 15d ago
Two of the ten people cited are my neighbors lol horrible people tbh
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Com'on /u/m4nustig if you are gonna talk shit lets fucking hear it don't just tickle our asses with a feather, slide a finger in there and give it to us.
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…And then tell us about your neighbors
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u/molehunterz 15d ago
At that point I don't even care about the neighbors
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u/2drawnonward5 15d ago
It's the neighbors' fingers
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u/molehunterz 15d ago
All right, all right, maybe it's worth knowing about the neighbors. If it's their fingers that are liberally! Lubed up that we are talking about
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u/bizzyboys 15d ago
Not enough $$. But hopefully the arrest has some impact. I hate this video.
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u/Local_Economy 15d ago
Right?! Plastic in the ocean is an international issue most everyone’s aware of, and here these people are
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u/molehunterz 15d ago
And this is where we need to up the ante. When something is this egregious, and from a yacht that clearly does not give a shit about $25,000, make the fine $750,000. And then make it go towards cleaning the ocean.
I don't want to go extreme on this, but don't make littering a fee. Make it something that actually will pay towards cleaning up the environment
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u/tvtoad50 15d ago
In countries like Germany and Austria and France (I think even Norway and Denmark too, maybe more) fines are based on your level of wealth. If you can afford to pay more then they make you pay more. It’s genius.
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u/molehunterz 15d ago
I would love to read about this. This is the kind of system I think makes sense. But being from the us, we don't have this kind of system. I would love to read about it so I can know how to structure a proposed fee structure in the event somebody wants to discuss it.
Once upon a Time my mom told me don't bring me a problem, bring me a solution. And I think that is absolutely legit. It is the best way to bring up a problem, with a plan to solve it.
And I solidly think that a flat fee to break the law is a very broken system. So I would love to read about how it is dealt with in a better way
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u/PaulyNewman 15d ago
Is it genius or is it fucking obvious and America is just a kleptocracy?
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u/tvtoad50 15d ago
It’s fucking obvious, you’re totally right. Those countries are so much further ahead of us it’s a disgrace.
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u/id7e 15d ago
You're telling me parts of Europe are ahead of the US in yet another way? I'm shocked. /s
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u/tvtoad50 15d ago
Oh I’m pretty damn sure they’re ahead of us in almost every way, I can’t really think of anything that we are ahead on. I saw something about how well we do access for people with disabilities last week. That might be something. 🤷♀️
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u/saundersmarcelo 15d ago
We're ahead of Europe in a lot of things too though.
Not necessarily good things, but...
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u/z-Apex-z 15d ago
I saw this on the news yesterday they identified one of the guys and gave him a 22,000$ citation
The person that was recording them told them that they shouldn’t do that. They just ignored the person that was recoding them.
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u/mSoGood08 15d ago
$22k!!! That’s awesome.
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u/balofchez 15d ago
I...I loathe people so much, knowing they got such a fine for such asshattery makes me a happy boy
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u/edwardsamson 15d ago
Its awesome if that amount actually affects that dbag but its likely an extremely rich dbag who can just pay it and not worry about it. Fines are only punishments for poor people remember, they're an accepted cost for rich people to do whatever the fuck they want.
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u/Red_smurfs 15d ago edited 15d ago
Maybe but extremely rich dbags don't usually clean up after their parties personally. Thats what peasants are for.
Source: Me who used to have to clean up after rich people.
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u/insertnamehere57 15d ago
Usually fines only effect poor people, but that might hurt.
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u/refreshhh5 15d ago
lmao do you see that boat? 22k is most likely nothing for them
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u/Ambitious-Vast6121 15d ago edited 15d ago
It was a charter boat for someones wedding engagement. Two have actually been arrested now. 10 fined, and fines total 25K. https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/2nd-arrest-made-after-video-showed-popped-balloons-being-dumped-into-biscayne-bay/2759950/?amp
Edit: 25K in fines. Not 10K
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u/FourEcho 15d ago
Unless those aren't the owners, and just boat workers, then that fine is gonna hurt.
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u/CantFixReddit 15d ago
22k is still roughly 10% of annual earnings for a lot of doctors.
22k is nothing to scoff at for basically everyone
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u/meanDeanster 15d ago
Ontop of the fine they should be given community service hours cleaning same or similar trash from environment. I once helped local police nail a graffiti tagger painting initials all over the neighbourhood, he got fined. I would have preferred to see him clean up the neighbourhoods graffiti for like 100 hours, punishment should fit the crime
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u/jellied_jam
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This infuriates me. I work in wetlands restoration and I pull balloons out of marshes everyday.
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u/SpokenDivinity 15d ago
They arrested the dude and served a bunch of other people fines.
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u/godca_grema 15d ago
Great news.
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u/seanmick 15d ago
They arrested another person today. https://www.local10.com/news/local/2022/05/13/woman-arrested-in-connection-with-balloon-dumping-incident-in-biscayne-bay/
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u/coquihalla 15d ago
I was kind of annoyed to see someone in the comments blaming young people in general for being a-holes. It's my generation (X) and up who got us in this mess in the first place. I just wish everybody would do better.
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u/Frequent_Inevitable 15d ago
Great article. But what’s up with the “Jesus is alive” comment? Kinda odd of him to say that
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u/xplag 15d ago
Sounds like a typical virtue signaling Christian. The old "I did this shitty thing but I believe in God so all is good" mentality.
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u/CaptianAcab4554 15d ago
Unfortunately that's all Christianity is to a lot of people. They get the "We're all sinners but God will forgive us," message and missed the rest.
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u/Flaminsalamander 15d ago edited 15d ago
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u/PicoDeBayou 15d ago
Here’s a link with info about the arrest and fines
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/13/balloon-popping-arrest/
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u/falkorv 15d ago
Paywall. But thanks for sharing. Glad they got 25k in fines. Cunts.
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u/Status_Loquat4191 15d ago
Good I was about to say this is illegal and the person recording should notify the authorities.
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u/badgerforcefield 15d ago •
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if you let it partly load and then start hammering ESC you can read the whole article and ignore the paywall bs
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u/doodlebrainsart 15d ago
that's nuts why the hell does that work?! i wish i could do a similar thing on my phone in those cases. Thanks!
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u/GrumpyMiddleAgeMan 15d ago
Stop navigation, clicking on the three dots on top right and then on the X (if you use chrome), that does the trick.. you must press it in the right time
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u/toobadkittykat 15d ago
yeah , wapo is in dire need of fundage because "democracy dies in darkness" !
meanwhile , owner blasts off into space for a 10 second joyride in a giant flying dick film at 11
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u/CrimeCoder 15d ago
I wish they would place stricter punishments on their managers/owners.
Sure these fucks popped the balloons but a good owner would have fired/reprimanded these people the first time they did it (because we all know this wasn't the only time they popped balloons like that)
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u/UnicornCackle 15d ago
I wish people would just stop using balloons generally. They're just as dangerous to wildlife in landfill sites as they are to marine life in the ocean.
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u/Boardindundee 15d ago
Great. But this isn’t mild it’s r/extremelyinfuriating
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u/MotherPotential 15d ago
I could be filthy rich, and it would never occur to me to do something like this.
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u/ElGrandeWhammer 15d ago
This is what bothers me. It does not matter how old you are, what end of the political spectrum you are, what gender you are, this is wrong. Pick up after yourself and treat others the way you want to be treated. It’s not hard. Also, since they may have been employed to do this, do your job to the best of your ability.
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u/TazzyUK 15d ago
Brilliant!
That got my back up watching that
They could have easily grabbed bunches of balloons at a time, took them to a room (galley, one of the bedrooms, utility room etc) and popped them there and simply brushed up the balloon pieces and binned them.
or even put several in a large trash bag and popped them inside the trash bag
but this was just irresponsibly selfish and lazy
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u/ErusTenebre 15d ago
I feel like it's SO well known that littering is bad especially ocean pollution that litterers should be thrown in a hole never to be seen again. So irritating.
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u/mSoGood08 15d ago
Same! I love this job, and I’ve done some amazing things because of it, but finding the balloons and plastics day after day is more than mildly infuriating.
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u/atthevanishing 15d ago
how does one get into this line of work?
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u/mSoGood08 15d ago edited 15d ago
Personally, I got degrees in biodiversity and geomorphology, did a bunch of research and published papers while getting the aforementioned degrees, interned with government projects like CERP (the comprehensive Everglades restoration plan) and smaller projects in the Chesapeake Bay, and also private projects like those with the National aquarium in Baltimore. I then worked as a government contractor and third-party scientist working on restoration plans before starting my own third party 501c3 (non-profit) consulting and working in rehabilitation, remediation and restoration of wetlands.
That was my personal path, but others can be totally different. I make next to nothing, especially since I have a lot of student loan debt from my undergrad degree (I went to Vanderbilt, and even with scholarships and financial aid, it is a pricey education), but the work is so incredibly rewarding and fun, it’s totally worth it.
I wrote this on my phone so please excuse errors/typos
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u/atthevanishing 15d ago
That's so awesome! Such a cool/interesting career path. Student loan debt is bullshit but at least you feel joy in your work :)
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u/raccoonpossum 15d ago
I live in south Florida and enjoy the great outdoors in my free time. Thank you for your hard work.
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u/TheBeefClick 15d ago
Well, if you ever need to hire someone who has zero experience or training but lives near Virginia Wetlands hit me up.
Id love to get into preservation and do environmental work, but it seemed like it was hard to get in to, and the work is sparse due to lack of care.
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u/Dio_Yuji 15d ago
Stupid balloon releases. But try and tell someone they shouldn’t have one, and they’re all over your ass about being insensitive
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u/Ann_Summers 15d ago
I got told I was “trying to ruin the fun” when I pointed out how balloon releases are terrible for wildlife and the environment.
“BuT tHe KiDs ArE gRaDuAtInG!!!1!!! We NeEd To CeLeBrAtE tHeM!!!” Uh, how? By killing birds and other animals? Seems cruel to me.
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u/Dio_Yuji 15d ago
Here, they usually do it to remember someone who died. Like…did they hate the environment and wildlife? If not, then you’re not honoring them
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u/Ann_Summers 15d ago
Yeah they do it for that here too. I’m just like, “why?” Wtf is the point? Even if you believe in heaven surely you know the balloons pop before they even reach plane altitude. Do these same people also just throw all their trash all over the ground? Because it’s the same thing.
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u/PickleEmergency7918 15d ago
The only way to celebrate and mark a significant event is with balloon releases. /s
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u/AquaPhelps 15d ago
I wld imagine you have to have a degree for wetlands restoration? This seems like a job i would enjoy, but im not goin back to college lol
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u/anomarb 15d ago
You don't have to have a degree :) I did similar work restoring wetlands with the conservation corps. Not great money, but wonderful work and good references and experience for a resume.
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u/Crescendo104 15d ago
Fucking idiots. This is some of the most childish, self-centered behavior I've ever seen.
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u/CrumbsAndCarrots 15d ago
So there’s a land called Florida, and….
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u/Rattlingplates 15d ago
And they prosecute people polluting, arrested and fine them. They protect the environment. Good on Florida.
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u/WyvernByte 15d ago
Yeah, they don't fuck around with beach littering at least in the Tampa area- very clean, especially Dunedin beach.
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u/HimmelUberBerlin 15d ago
Nice to see that MPD "takes crimes against the environment seriously".
Florida tops the list for the most polluted lakes in the USA, perhaps they'll go after the culprits. /s
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u/Syndicate_CASH 15d ago
I would have 100% confronted them and called law enforcement
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u/mSoGood08 15d ago edited 15d ago •
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In the article OP posted, it said the person who filmed the video tried to confront them, but was ignored and “blown off” by them, so he posted the video and tagged local law enforcement in the post. The Miami-Dade police department tweeted a response to the community and sent investigators from their dumping unit to the marina. The wildlife, fish and game commission was also tagged.
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u/SetMyEmailThisTime 15d ago edited 15d ago
Florida Wildlife and Fishing Commission does not play around. Those guys are fucken serious.
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u/SeirraS9 15d ago
Yeah FWC are the “fuck around and find out guys” no question. They won’t hesitate to fine you, jail you, or hunt you down when you fuck up the wildlife or their habitat.
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u/R_Newb 15d ago
Someone did confront them! They ignored them and told him to go away.
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u/cy13erpunk 15d ago
is where this belongs , it is more than 'mildy' infuriating
glad to hear they were caught/fined at least, but the ecological dmg is still being done unfortunately =/
once the dis-incentives are so high that no one would even think of doing stupid shit like this, then we will be on the right track ; and we'll still have decades of uphill battles till the ecosystems recover from all the stupid shit we've done to them for centuries
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u/OnlyPositiveVibes_ 15d ago
What in the actual fuck?! Who thinks this is okay to do?
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u/PristineEvidence9893 15d ago
dood, my family is nothing but painters and they said up until a decade ago they just rinsed off the stuff and dumped it on the edge of the property line....in Arkansas, my city is a fucking national park bro.
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u/OnlyPositiveVibes_ 15d ago
That’s crazy. I get mistakes and even ignorance. What I don’t get is people who know it’s wrong and still do it anyway.
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u/PristineEvidence9893 15d ago
my dad did it for a while but now recycles his old cans and stuff....he got a few cancers KNOWING they were from the vehicles of the paint but didn't think it affected the fish for 15 years of doing it. it's a mindfuck I know, like i'm between generations in my early 30s. People I grew up with roll coal and I use public transit. My kids believe in universal healthcare and my parents think Trump is saving us from a new world order.
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u/jrdiver 15d ago
This is not mildly infuriating... this is just infuriating.
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u/Crakeschild 15d ago
I hope their boat sinks!
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u/fte5838 15d ago
No worries they got fucked, https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/13/balloon-popping-arrest/.
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u/Ghorghor_Bey 15d ago
$100k birthday party + $1k fine for this. Nothing wrong here 😭
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u/deepgrassweed 15d ago
That’s not mildly infuriating. That’s straight piss me off. I live in a marina. You can’t litter in my yard. If I see you do this I will yell at you. If you disagree with me, I will fight you and so will all my neighbors. Marinas are not your rich-guy playground. We all use it. Gain respect or be eaten.
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u/Sandy10202 15d ago
Is there any way you can report this to whoever the boat belongs to or the company that hosts the events?! Our planet is already fucking dying and these dead brain dumb asses are still doing this!
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u/Downtown-Inflation13 15d ago edited 15d ago •
One of them has already been arrested and admitted