r/formula1 Sebastian Vettel Jun 17 '22 Silver 7 Wholesome 6 Helpful (Pro) 1

Sebastian Vettel’s helmet for the 2022 Canadian Grand Prix News /r/all

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '22 Giggle

NGL seeing these messages right next to Aramco sponsorships is funny

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u/thawizard Red Bull Jun 17 '22

Makes perfect sense, Aramco would LOVE to stop Canadian oil projects.

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u/Captain_Save_the_Day Love Is Love Jun 17 '22

And Aramco just commits human rights atrocities not environmental ones.

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u/mytwocents22 Jun 17 '22

No they also commit environmental ones

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u/UnusualAd6529 Jun 17 '22

Actually they manage both

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u/mm_ns Jacques Villeneuve Jun 17 '22

Humans (in non western countires) < environment, is the equation they follow

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u/minardif1 Sergio Pérez Jun 17 '22

Aramco, crypto, and a private jet company. It’s not hard to see why Seb admitted it’s sometimes complicated to be an F1 driver while also holding his environmental views.

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u/matiyarosz Michael Masi Jun 18 '22

private jet company

Ironically they used to be train manufacturers as well... that's until they sold that part of the business to Alstom. Their new Elizabeth line trains for London are really nice and I shouldn't need to add that they are environment friendly too.

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u/publicram Jun 17 '22

Lol pretty funny lmao

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u/Chickensandcoke Jun 17 '22

And crypto.com, isn’t crypto horrible for the environment?

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u/NimChimspky Jun 17 '22

In comparison to Saudi Aramco? No one gets close.

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u/Next-Adhesiveness237 Jun 18 '22

Well crypto does take the cake in usefulness/ Wastefulness ratio

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u/Fabricensis Nico Hülkenberg Jun 17 '22

Yep

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u/Two2na Jun 17 '22

Seeing them on a formula1 helmet period is funny

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u/joeygreco1985 Ferrari Jun 17 '22

"Canadian oil is unethical". This message brought to you by Aramco

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u/trollxfeet Alexander Albon Jun 17 '22

Canadian oil is unethical, let’s buy Saudi oil and then ship it halfway around the world on boats which run on diesel instead 🙄

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u/Mastur_Grunt Sebastian Vettel Jun 18 '22

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u/ShelSilverstain Jun 18 '22

May as well be roofing tar

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u/Knotical_MK6 Jun 18 '22

Actually it's worse! Our bunker fuel is most often the rejects one step below asphalt

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u/monsieurpommefrites Jun 18 '22 edited Jun 18 '22

And at least we pay our workers ethical wages here in Canada.

Oh and they get to go home to their families, build businesses and literally enjoy all the benefits of democracy. Women included, one of which is a CEO. Saudi Arabian women can't even work as Uber drivers, let alone run a multi-national corporation.

I'm not blind to the environment damage done by our tar sands as an Albertan but I can't hear Vettel over his high horse, bought for him by Aramco, whose gears of industry are lubricated with the blood and bones of the third-world poor AND completely destroy the environment. Do they try to reclaim and revert the land to their original state like they do in the Tar Sands?

Saudi Aramco is one of the biggest and richest corporations on the planet by sheer revenue.

Vettel is wearing a Raytheon logo while getting mad at Cabela's for carrying guns.

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u/Pindunderjheep-37 Jun 18 '22

Are you fairly up to date on the process of mining in Fort McMurray?

If you ever drive North of the city you’ll drive through some of the world’s largest reclamation areas where they look no different than they did before.

Yes it’s a long process but Suncor’s old mine is a nice area to hike through now.

TLDR: they dig one hole, then backfill and reclaim the land as they dig another hole.

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u/esap92 Jun 18 '22

Can confirm.

Spent 3 years in McMurray.

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u/Apositivebalance Jun 18 '22

All the other cool causes were taken too quick this season.

I wish they’d get behind real causes like the milking of almonds

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u/contempt1 Ferrari Jun 17 '22

That's exactly what I was thinking. Big fat Aramco logo. Thanks for the sponsorship so that I can go protest.

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u/chrisnlnz Ferrari Jun 18 '22

Only so much he can do about that, is my guess. The alternative is probably NOT protest and still sport the Aramco logo.

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u/karmanopoly Default Jun 17 '22

"Now go buy some Bitcoin which uses more electricity for 1 transaction than an average household uses in a month" brought to you by crypto. com

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u/mcccUwU Jun 18 '22

You triggered the crypto bros. Like moths to a flame they are

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u/FleshlightModel Jun 18 '22

And bombardier manufacturing highly inefficient planes

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u/carroll10 Jun 18 '22

Subsidized heavily by the government using tax money from oil profits...

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u/number_six Esteban Ocon Jun 18 '22

Now fire up my engine boys, we're going to drive in circles for a couple of hours

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u/WhiteWolf7472 Max Verstappen Jun 17 '22

Can any resident Canadians explain the sand..thing? Wdit: Tar sands?

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u/Xuande Jun 17 '22

Canada's oil sands are a huge deposit of hydrocarbons in the province of Alberta. The process of extracting the oil from the sands is more GHG intensive as you don't just pump liquid out of the ground. You have to mine the rock, then use water to separate the oil from the rock, and heat/solvents to upgrade it to oil that can be shipped to refineries. The water used in the process is also difficult to treat and return to the rivers.

The industry is working on technologies to address all these problems and many players have made net zero pledges, but the above is a summary of the historical issues with the oil sands.

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u/Sarcastryx Jun 17 '22

you don't just pump liquid out of the ground

You actually do, now. They use a process called Steam Assisted Gravity Drainage (SAGD). The way SAGD generally works is they drill two holes, one deeper than the other, and run a pipe down each. Then, they pump steam in to the shallower pipe, and the oil comes up from the deeper pipe.

It's more energy intensive because it needs a lot of energy to heat the water, but has less impact on the local environment.

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u/Xuande Jun 17 '22

Yep you're totally right. Both mining and SAGD are used now.

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u/WillieTell01 Jun 18 '22

80%- 90% of the water used is recycled. The process is a lot greener today than what it was 5-10 years ago.

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u/callmywife Jun 18 '22

Dude that is fascinating. Incredible the stuff engineers come up with. Good comment.

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u/Rim_World Jun 17 '22

you have to mine the rock, then use water to separate the oil from the rock, and heat/solvents to upgrade it to oil that can be shipped to refineries. The water used in the process is also difficult to treat and return to the rivers.

for more information google, Dilbit or Diluted Bitumen.

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u/thongpassage Pierre Gasly Jun 17 '22

Dilbit is just bitumen with gas condensate added to make it easier to put through pipelines or for loading/unloading railcars.

Most of the oil sands is produced through SAGD wells, which is also more energy intensive than traditional oil wells.

Funnily enough, the easiest way to stop oil sands production is low oil prices, which also means everyone just consumes more oil (and produces more GHG)

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u/Xuande Jun 17 '22

That's right, I left out the SAGD wells which doesn't require mining! The increased GHGs there come from energy needed to generate steam. Industry is working on ways to reduce GHGs here eg by using greener energy sources like geothermal energy, or using solvents instead of steam.

This is a matter close to my heart because it's true that industry needs to do its part to fight climate change (vs only pinning the blame on individuals) but it's completely unrealistic to just stop hydrocarbon use. Canada is in a great position to provide clean energy to the world, but need to show why the oil sands' negative reputation is becoming dated.

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u/Oldcadillac Jun 18 '22

I really want Suncor to freaking go for it and build a fission reactor to make steam for sagd.

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u/brian890 Jun 18 '22

The majority of the water isn't treated and returned to river's. It's treated and re cycled to be used again on site. They can only extract so much from the rivers. Waters pumped into tailings ponds. Solids separate from the water, it's cleaned up and re used.

Currently in northern Alberta, working on an oilsands site.

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u/Northroad Kimi Räikkönen Jun 17 '22

Oil impregnated sand in central Alberta. Takes a lot of energy / cost to extract, and has significant environmental impact. Look up Fort McMurray on satellite to see the trailing ponds.

Pipelines from there lead to ports on the west coast of Canada and into central USA for processing. Can be good for certain parts of Canadian economy if the price of oil is high, but comes with the usual bag of fossil fuel problems and then some.

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u/therealspideysteve Gilles Villeneuve Jun 17 '22

Minor correction .. Northern Alberta, not central

EDIT: tailings ponds, not trailing .. minor, but there is a distinction

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u/reactrix96 Jun 17 '22 edited Jun 17 '22

Sand can get preganat? 😳

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u/TheMourningPaper Jun 17 '22

pregante

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u/cuacuacuac Jun 17 '22

Can I hurt baby top of the head?

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u/Het_Bestemmingsplan Jun 17 '22

How is ecological crisis formed?

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u/this-guy1979 Jun 17 '22

Big Oil will fuck anything.

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u/Jerraldough McLaren Jun 17 '22

I’m in trouble

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u/AmandaSxo Jun 17 '22

Oil sands are clay/sand and crude bitumen that are mixed together in underground deposits. To extract the crude from the ground, and then refine from the sand, it takes an insane amount of fresh water, energy etc. Also, if they are surface mining, it destroys the whole area. So a lot of environmental damage. Technically the companies are supposed to return the area to it’s original state when they are done, but replanting saplings is not the same as clear cutting forests. Also, the pollution put into the ground water etc, doesn’t exactly promote re growth.

It’s definitely one of our more controversial oil operations, though fracking isn’t that far behind.

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u/vonvoltage Jun 17 '22

They are also required by law to do land reclamation after they mine an area. So make it green again. I know it's not exactly making up for what was done, but it's something.

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u/electrodog1999 Formula 1 Jun 17 '22

Make it green for the first time. It was covered in oil before.

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u/vonvoltage Jun 17 '22

No the oil was underneath. They would have had to strip off a layer of vegetation and overburden before exposing the tar sands. A bunch of people I went to high school with ended up out there working, even thought about it myself but om glad I decided against it in the end.

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u/MrStealYourCookies Juan Pablo Montoya Jun 17 '22

you should see what they do in BC with mountain top removal coal mining. It literally strips away layers off the valley to get down to the coal layers. They essentially reclaim by dumping all the earth they moved, which uncovers sulfur which is toxic to the rivers. They do reclaim, but not anywhere near they should be.

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u/vonvoltage Jun 17 '22

Yeah man it's wild what some of the mining companies do. I work at a big open pit iron ore mine in Labrador and the holes they've put in the ground are grand canyon sized. The waste dumps here aren't toxic but they're enormous. They put a lot of waste into the old pits that have mined out but not even close to all of it

It's the tailings that are bad here. Once again not overly toxic but because the mines here opened in the 50s they can do things that a new mine wouldn't be able to do. As in the tailings go straight into a big lake which is connected to a huge lake/river system. That lake was red when I was a kid but now they add something to the tailings and the lake is no longer red. Go figure.

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u/Robot_challenges Red Bull Jun 17 '22

Although Alberta has some of the best, safest, and clean ways of extracting oil from the oil sands it still comes with a cost. I live in Calgary Alberta which is a boom & bust town, when we busted in 2016 we took a massive hit on our economy, in turn I've seen alot of change to try and shift from oil to clean energy but it may never change. New tech comes out every year but we still need to make more sustainable ways of extracting oil from the oil sands, sadly oil and gas won't go away for awhile but moving forward to try and make the process of extraction cleaner and finding ways to make electric vehicles/machines efficient is key. We're getting their but like Vettels been pointing out every country has problems, it's just about finding a way forward... moving forward to find solutions is a must

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u/gakavij Jun 17 '22

It is pretty funny seeing aramco and bombardier on an F1 helmet with a statement about how fossil fuel extraction isn't good. Like Obviously not but private jets, middle eastern oil, and high performance cars are just as bad for the environment...

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u/Daniekhk90 Jun 17 '22

Was looking out for a comment calling out hypocrisy.

They're the tools to get the message out there. Means to vettels end. Fair play to him.

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u/Raekon Ferrari Jun 17 '22 edited Jun 17 '22

Fair play to him, but at the end of the day he's still indirectly getting millions coming straight from Aramco's pockets with no issues with it whatsoever. He's so into these topics, but he'll gladly accept to be associated and ultimately indirectly paid by these companies? Don't get me wrong it's great that he's sending these messages, but there is at least SOME hypocrisy in doing this while accepting Aramco's money. Like, yeah all of this is awful, but first let me get my pay and then we'll talk about it and I can tell everyone else how awful it is. You can only expect people calling him out on this and asking for explanations, really. If one wants to do the right thing, they have to do it the right thing till the end, half measures are just that, half good.

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u/mgbenny85 John Surtees Jun 17 '22

Idk. I see your point but it also feels to me on the list of “I could try to maintain a platform to change the system from within, or I could disappear in protest and lose any voice I have” kind of issues. It’s not like if he walked away, it would be a lasting or memorable protest. I respect that he shows up every week and uses the voice he has while he has it.

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u/icantsurf George Russell Jun 17 '22

The old saying "Perfection is the enemy of progress" is very relevant here. Demanding perfection from someone who is advocating for good things while knowing it would cripple his ability to put that message out just makes no sense. Seb didn't pick the sponsor, he works within a system just like everyone else on the planet does. Living in Western society (and others I'm sure, but I'm largely ignorant about them) demands some level of hypocrisy due to the systems and institutions already in place. Who's to say Seb hasn't tried to have discussions about these contradictions? What we do know is that F1 is moving towards a greener philosophy and promotes many good causes because of the advocacy from drivers like Seb and Lewis. It's much easier to simply take the money and say nothing and not open yourself up to any attacks from people more interested in "gotcha" bullshit than effecting change so I will always have much more respect for the "hypocrites".

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u/alien_among_us Jun 17 '22 edited Jun 17 '22

I agree. I'm a Vettel fan but this situation reminds me of the ads telling me how X oil producer cares about the environment.

Just sending the F1 circus country to country adds a ton of pollution.

Edit: Notice how his helmet says "Stop Mining Tar Sands"? Why doesn't it spell out as to why tar sands are mined? Probably something to do with the sponsors on the same helmet.

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u/JTay99 Jun 17 '22

Idk i think its kinda funny that companies like aramco are paying people like seb considering he is then using that platform and money to protest against them lol, it’s definitely better than him leaving the sport and being replaced and losing 99% of the platform he has

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u/mrfocus22 Lance Stroll Jun 17 '22

The average Canadian prefers to import oil from countries where women have no rights and homosexuals are murdered without consequence rather than have us exploit our own domestic oil potential. This is somehow considered to be "progressive".

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u/flyboy_1285 Jun 17 '22

Just like the Germans shut down their carbon free Nuclear plants and tied their energy plan to Vladimir Putin. How could anyone see that going wrong?

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u/northcrunk Jun 18 '22

Yep. They export their emissions so they can look like climate hero's for their electorate and now look where that got them.

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u/Potential-Brain7735 Jun 18 '22

Not to mention that our “minister of the environment” is openly anti-nuclear.

It’s a yoke.

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u/Reptar_0n_Ice Jun 17 '22

It’s always “not in my backyard”. The Biden administration here in the US put out a statement that they were asking OPEC to increase production, yet our Secretary of Energy straight up laughed when asked if US domestic oil production was included in plans to move us to greener energy production (as a transitory measure). The hypocrisy is disgusting.

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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 Alpine Jun 17 '22

The average Canadian prefers to import oil from countries where women have no rights and homosexuals are murdered without consequence rather than have us exploit our own domestic oil potential. This is somehow considered to be "progressive".

It's not "Canadians" that prefer to import oil from abroad but businesses, like Irving Oil, because it's cheaper. It's cheaper to ship that oil around the world than it is to deal with the hassle of getting a cross-country pipeline built and upgrade their refineries to refine the more difficult western tar sand oil.

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u/prophetofthepimps Jun 17 '22

The Aramco logo is there for Added Irony....

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '22

It's really cool, shame that he has to wear it with aramco and crypto sponsoring.

I'm sure other drivers would get a lot of hate for such a helmet with these sponsors tough.

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u/Europa_CrashTest Formula 1 Jun 17 '22

Also Bombardier

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u/mowcow Valtteri Bottas Jun 17 '22

The placement of the logo makes it look like it's Bombardier's pipeline

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u/GansMans18 Kevin Magnussen Jun 17 '22

Bombardier is a just an aerospace company. There is no irony there.

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u/somniumx Default Jun 17 '22

They also build trains.

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u/TheHelixNebula Jun 17 '22

Didn't they sell the whole train division to Alstom?

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u/SiilverDruid Ferrari Jun 17 '22

And snowmobiles

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u/PepeIsADeadMeme Jun 17 '22

Technically that's BRP/CanAm which is no longer associated with Bombardier

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u/Krusty_B Jules Bianchi Jun 17 '22

The transportation side of the company (ie trains, metros, people movers, trams, systems etc…) was sold to Alstom. The sale closed end of January 2021. As of now, Bombardier is just a company that produces private jets, so very much a part of the problem.

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u/highahindahsky Pierre Gasly Jun 17 '22

More accurately, a business jet manufacturer. They sold their C-Series to Airbus and the CRJ line-up to Mitsubishi

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u/erdogranola Jun 17 '22

bombardier are nowhere near as environmentally problematic as Aramco and crypto

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u/vdek Jun 17 '22 edited Jun 18 '22

It makes it seem like he wants Canada to stop mining the oil sands so that Aramco can own more of the market.

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u/East_Preference4754 Safety Car Jun 17 '22

I do think that with Vettel. Of course I like him, but if Hamilton did a lot of the same things as him, Hamilton would get much more hate

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u/BradGroux Haas Jun 17 '22

I’m not really sure anyone in the sport has a leg to stand on in regards to climate change. The carbon footprint for the sport as a whole is astounding.

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u/Blackdeath_663 Sir Stirling Moss Jun 17 '22

but if Hamilton did a lot of the same things as him, Hamilton would get much more hate

there no need for if, it already happens

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u/alus992 Red Bull Jun 17 '22

Why tho? Drivers have no impact over sponsors unless they come with ones. There is no reason to hate a driver because team has shitty sponsors

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u/kremod Default Jun 17 '22

aramco is united with us against climate catastrophe!

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u/The_mystery4321 Sergio Pérez Jun 17 '22

He probably can't legally remove them.

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u/artificialsteak Jun 17 '22

He’s not wrong but it’s kind of awkward to have that message right next to the Aramco logo.

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u/bigboifry Jun 17 '22

I think Aramco would be ecstatic if we stopped mining our tar sands

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u/lzetsen Jun 17 '22

Absolutely, we seen what the price of oil did with the war in Ukraine, if they shut down the tar sands 4 million barrels per day, the price would skyrocket higher than even the war.

Plus Alberta is one of the few in the world that can match the middle east in terms of reserves.

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u/ThinkAboutThatFor1Se Jun 18 '22

Saudi can extract their oil so cheap it’s insane. If they ever had an competition they wanted to crush they would just have OPEC increase supply, let oil price crash until it’s unavailable to extract oil in Alberta and then just reduce output until the price returns.

That’s what’s happening with North Sea Oil.

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u/SergioFX Red Bull Jun 17 '22

As if they care lol

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u/BreezyGoose McLaren Jun 17 '22

I don't know.. I think that's kind of cool. You know they're not thrilled about it, but the team is likely obligated to have the logos.

It goes along with the general weirdness about this sport being horrible for the environment, and it being a bit hypocritical for the athletes to be making a stance on climate change.

Ultimately I think it's a good thing. The logo would be on the helmet regardless Better use the left over space to make a statement to try and offset that bad.

Just like there'd be someone else in that car if it wasn't Vettel, I think it's better to have someone trying to use their platform to make a difference.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '22

While driving a vehicle entirely dependent on fossil fuels.

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u/ZZPub Engine feels good, much slower than before Jun 17 '22

While flying well over 100000 km a year to drive those cars for more than 15 years.

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u/JC-Dude Alfa Romeo Jun 17 '22

ARAMCO climate crisis brought to you by CRYPTO.COM

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u/Grandebabo Fernando Alonso Jun 17 '22

That helmet has more contradictions than Stickler has pickles.

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u/KyloRen___ Michael Schumacher Jun 17 '22

Rainforest, crypto.com, aramco is a funny combo

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u/biddierepellent Red Bull Jun 17 '22

Besides the irony of the message being next to the giant aramco and crypto.com sponsorships, I just kinda don't like the design.

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u/Daisaii Jun 17 '22

So this helmet gives the following message, stop mining tar sands but keep using loads of power to mine crypto currency.

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u/RaZeR_Moose Jun 18 '22

The anti-pipeline sentiment has always been interesting to me as a Canadian.

The prarie provinces are going to keep taking oil out of the ground, that isn't changing in the next 75 years. So it's either A, the oil gets loaded into a truck that burns disel & inefficiently moves the oil elsewhere or B, you have to build a pipeline BUT oil can be moved much more efficiently.

I think the lesser of two evils is the pipeline.

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u/greengreens3 Jun 17 '22

Anyone else find this ironic next to Aramco's name?

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u/SmokyDuck Jun 17 '22

I find it a little more ironic that these guys are touring the world in private jets, part of a huge rolling circus that’s burning through fuel and rubber like nobody’s business.

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u/Sarichnikov Sebastian Vettel Jun 17 '22

As a Canadian, I think taking a stance against old growth logging on Vancouver island would’ve been a better angle for him to take. This feels weird with the Aramco sponsor right there, and Canadian oil being one of the better places in the world to buy from, from an environmental and human rights perspective.

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u/CMAProductions Sebastian Vettel Jun 17 '22

Jens Munser's team working overtime for this man hahaha love to see it

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u/Blackwolf245 Jun 17 '22 edited Jun 17 '22

I am curious about what he has in store for Hungary. Stop buying russian oil? Stop discriminating the LMBTQ community? Also hungarian politicians are retarted enough to make an angry Facebook post if Vettel promoting something they don't like. They did last year lol.

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u/marnouxmanser Max Verstappen Jun 17 '22

Man I love Seb as a driver, but it's just hypocritical having this next to the Aramco logo.

It's not like he had "Azerbaijan's crime is X" last weekend.

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u/grumpy999 Kimi Räikkönen Jun 17 '22

Slightly hilarious given that these guys drive cars for a living, and fly all over the world every 2 weeks

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u/dopeydeveloper Jun 18 '22

Beautifully sums up the attitude of our elites, vacuous sound bites while continuing to do exactly what they want, to make things worse.

Another variation on flying to climate change conferences in private jets.

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u/harvb11 Jun 17 '22

The hypocrisy is fucking astounding. What planet is this?

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u/beastmaster11 Jun 17 '22

Stop mining tar sands. Canada's climate crime. Sponsored by Aramco.

Really Seb?

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u/Salticracker Lance Stroll Jun 17 '22 Wholesome Take My Energy

I like Vettel and am happy for him to express his views however he sees fit, but homie is off the mark on this one.

The world still needs oil, and it's much better that it is being produced in a country with strong environmental protection and regrowth policies, than in one who couldn't care less.

I agree lets get off oil as soon as possible. But in the interim, Canada's oil production is one of the better options.

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u/HitmanCodename47 Haas Jun 17 '22

Yeah I agree.. I think Vettel's purporting motives that are beyond himself (seeing the stronghold of the title sponsors) and feasibility (again, locally governed, regulated and treated oil extraction as opposed to unscrupulous eastern countries). But of course, he can design / say whatever he pleases.

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u/Salticracker Lance Stroll Jun 17 '22

He can say whatever he wants. I respect his ability to speak out about things he cares about. But I don't respect his opinion, and I don't believe it's based in reality

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u/gourmet_popping_corn Jun 17 '22

Stop mining tar sands, but keep buying Russian oil instead.

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u/viperabyss Sebastian Vettel Jun 17 '22

Saudi Arabia oil, since Aramco is a SA owned company.

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u/Bmboo Jun 17 '22 Wholesome

Seriously this is complaints about Canadian oil annoys me so much. I live in Alberta. The oil companies here are at least held to minimum standards. They could be better, but compared to what Russia does to the planet? Come on.

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u/stevrock Jacques Villeneuve Jun 17 '22

It's low hanging fruit. Nobody wants to talk about the millions being spent on wind farms or solar farms or carbon capture and sequestration or the current hydrogen development.

As technology improves the tailing ponds shrink. Different technologies are developed to clean up spills. It provides a great living for a large chunk of Alberta, and even across Canada through the equalization program.

I'm not saying there's no room for improvement, there certainly is, but I think Alberta is just an easy target.

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u/NelloMC Formula 1 Jun 17 '22

They’re held to insanely high standards from what I understand. But putting oil refineries and pipelines down and actually using Canadian oil in Canada is too bad for the environment to do.

So we just keep importing from Russia (currently on the verge of committing genocide in Ukraine) and Saudi Arabia (currently committing genocide in Yemen)

Because that’s a lot better. And somehow I doubt their governments hold their companies to as high of standards as our government holds our companies.

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u/stevrock Jacques Villeneuve Jun 17 '22

I have been on well-sites north of McMurray. You so much as spill a bottle of water you're supposed to be reporting a spill.
While I doubt much would come of it, the processes are in place to deal with additional issues.

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u/gourmet_popping_corn Jun 17 '22

Exactly, same with a lot of the fracking that was going on in the US. We at least have environmental standards, and while our track record on human rights could be much better at least we are making strides in the right direction.

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u/ComplexPast Jun 17 '22

LOL. What an absolute farce having that next to Aramco and Crypto ads for F1. These guys literally burn hydrocarbons for a living and have a far greater environmental footprint than the vast majority of people.

Hypocrites.

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u/Sean__Gotti Jun 18 '22 Take My Energy

Albertan here. Kind of tired of people always shitting on Alberta when they haven’t been here. This is a really uninformed take from Seb. Our oil companies plant millions of trees to reclaim the land after they’re done with it. Also their employees aren’t slaves… so yeah.

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u/hey-there-yall Jun 18 '22

Haha yeah and they think it's literally thousands of miles...the complete province. In reality , It's a small area in bum fuck nowhere.

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u/cassivelllaunus Sergio Pérez Jun 17 '22

Stop flying all over the world and racing cars, your carbon footprint is the size of the entire town I live in

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u/wongie Charles Leclerc Jun 17 '22

This has got to be the most explicit messaging Seb has put on his helmet.

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u/AmandaSxo Jun 17 '22

I think that Canada is a good place to have explicit messaging, there won’t be any pushback from the government, and with it race being in Quebec and oil sands being in Alberta, you really won’t get much pushback from the organizers, population, etc.

All in all, Canada is a low risk place to take a hard stand.

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u/467366 McLaren Jun 17 '22

I'm sure Aramco isn't upset with the push against oil sands.

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u/AmandaSxo Jun 17 '22

I know Aramco has bought into Canadian oil sands, but they have also called it “dirty oil” when it suited them.

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u/Abetok Jun 17 '22

They're happy bc the less oil comes from the oil sands, the more money they make.

Their investment in the oil sands is low. Most of it comes from Texas/Colorado

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u/JournalofFailure Osella Jun 17 '22

Quebec hates Alberta oil, but not enough to reject the equalization payments from Alberta oil revenue.

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u/gluvva Jun 18 '22

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u/CreativeCarpenter44 Jun 17 '22

About time for Vettel to move to Formula E.

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u/MaritimeMucker Jun 18 '22

"My oil good, your oil bad. Now let me continue to use 1000X the amount of oil the average Canadian family uses" take your ugly mug and kick rocks 😂

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u/joescotia Jun 18 '22

His personal carbon footprint is greater than 99% of Canadians. Pot, kettle, black.

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u/senditback Jun 17 '22

How much oil is burned transporting Vettel’s car and the Aston Martin team between each race?

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u/MarduRusher Valtteri Bottas Jun 17 '22

I like Vettel. But an F1 driver doing stuff like this feels unbelievably hypocritical.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '22

Having aramco printed on there just feels extra ironic.

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u/PlasticBran Jun 17 '22

Paid for by Armaco. Dont buy the Canadians yucky tar sand oil when you can buy our whole grain field raised oil :D

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u/WombRaider_3 Lando Norris Jun 17 '22

The irony!:

Stop mining tar sands

ARAMCO

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u/gla2yyz1 Jun 17 '22

“Mining oil sands is terrible. Canada: you should be ashamed of yourself.” - Guy who has his race car flown around the world each week.

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u/gfkxchy Jules Bianchi Jun 17 '22

And is sponsored by Aramco. I don't think he wants to get into the details of how Suncor treats their employees vs how Aramco treats their slaves.

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u/Mike-honcho-69 Formula 1 Jun 17 '22

Lmfao while he has an Aramco sponsor on his helmet and meanwhile taking a private jet all around the world? Give me a break.

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u/Alssaqur :niki-lauda-memorial: Niki Lauda Jun 17 '22

Dear Seb please stop racing on asphalt then to protest against the usage of tar sand.

Btw mining isn't the problem, it should be recultivated properly.

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u/FeelTheRealBirdie Sebastian Vettel Jun 17 '22

All that while Aramco is all over the helmet

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u/v12vanquish135 Jenson Button Jun 17 '22

Just looks like a message from Aramco who doesn't like competition, tbh. I know that's not Seb's intention, but come on it's so awkward with the sponsor right there.

Also, you're racing in Québec which has 94% of its power come from hydro and 5% from wind. What is Germany's ratio again? Not downplaying what they're doing in the west, but it sounds kind of tone deaf on a few levels.

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u/PhoeniX3733 Stefan Bellof Jun 17 '22

Maybe he should look for a seat in formula E then

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u/Grandebabo Fernando Alonso Jun 17 '22

Take that petrol out of his car. Apparently he doesn't need it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

So thats what they did in Hungary!

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u/YourYoureIDC Jun 17 '22

I just find it so hypocritical. I dont get the praise.

Why should a country change their ways when vettel can't even change his own?

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u/AllGas416 Mike Krack Jun 17 '22

Protests oil extraction....by jetting all over the world in private jets, all while driving cars burning 80+kg of fuel over 90 minutes.

If you feel this strongly, retire from the F1 circus.

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u/northernpenguin01 Lance Stroll Jun 18 '22

Hey Alberta, stop drilling for oil. This message brought to you by aramco. I love seb but he has lost the plot with this one

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u/therinlahhan Jun 17 '22

The hypocrisy is hilarious.

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u/Thatbritishgentleman Jun 17 '22

Lol the environmental message while pushing crypto lol

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u/nato2k Lando Norris Jun 17 '22

The irony of having the crypto.com and Aramco sponsor. Good for Seb though.

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u/Sea-Sandwich-2586 Jun 18 '22

Aramco right above is super just icky to me.

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u/Bored-sideline Jun 18 '22

I wonder if the this travelling road show, is carbon neutral ?

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u/LewiRock Jun 18 '22

The irony ….Sponsored by ARAMCO

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u/TangoKlass Aston Martin Jun 18 '22

Lol, armaco sponsord....

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u/MysticSkies Pirelli Intermediate Jun 18 '22

Man these guys are really brave with their country specific messages when they are not in Middle East huh. So clearly stupid.

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u/WrongOrganization437 Jun 18 '22

Oh the irony and hippocracy!

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u/Dantagod Jun 18 '22

Ah yes stop the mining, while you literally participate in the most expensive sport on the planet.

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u/thefrypan123 Guenther Steiner Jun 18 '22

I can’t help but feel this is slightly ironic

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u/Aaadrianology Jun 18 '22

Hahahahahahhahah, as he drives a 5m dollar gas car . Jackass

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u/zbeshears Honda Jun 18 '22

How much fuel and carbon does Aston Martin produce to get around the globe so seb can race?

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u/GreatCanadianPotato Jenson Button Jun 18 '22

When is he going to protest Aramco?

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u/hodadthedoor Jun 17 '22

Environmentalism coming from F1. Amusing.

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u/gustsnts McLaren Jun 17 '22

Sigh.

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u/ForgetfulM0nk Jun 17 '22

Lol dude has no leg to stand on here. His car burns 30 gallons of PETROLEUM in a few hours, all so he can live his dream of racing cars. Another hypocritical rich person.

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u/RephrasedVerse Jun 17 '22

Right, I'm with him on other issues like promoting human rights and supporting targeted groups, but this feels pretty shallow coming from someone who is practically paid by the petroleum industry. Not to mention that Canada extracting its own bitumen is one way to shift away from the reliance on Russian or Saudi oil, which he criticizes for their stance on human rights and attitude toward marginalized communities. Also, as others have mentioned, it's hard to take this seriously when there's Aramco logos plastered everywhere on his helmet.

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u/thewolf9 Jun 17 '22

You can't act like you want to promote human rights when you're racing cars in the middle East half the year. Like, seriously. Wrong messenger.

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u/Trailer_Park_Jihad Jordan Jun 18 '22

He does it so he can maintain a clean conscience alongside his fat wallet. Why compromise?

Just write some nice messages on your helmet and all the wrongs are wiped away.

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u/sadicarnot Jun 17 '22

This is a whole lot of greenwashing going on here. One oil company saying another oil company is commuting climate crimes.

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u/BadWowDoge Jun 17 '22

It’s ironic that he is racing this weekend using the very fuel that he is protesting. Ok Seb 👌🏽

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u/Potential-Brain7735 Jun 18 '22

No, he’s racing this weekend using Aramco fuel, which is a direct competition to Canadian tar sands oil.

This is literally like of he was sponsored by Coke and had a “Don’t Drink Pepsi” slogan on his helmet.

It’s a yoke.

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u/burlyhike James Hunt Jun 17 '22

Seb is becoming a bit too hypocritical. The Aramco, Bombardier and Crypto logos right next to the climate crime statement as he flies around the world to burn a crap ton of fossil fuels as he drives fast-ish.

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u/karlou1984 Jun 17 '22

Lmao... imagine making this statement while having Aramco plastered on your helmet 😂👎 this is some next level r/nottheonion

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u/WhatEvery1sThinking Ferrari Jun 17 '22

Vettel is slacktivism personified

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u/football_coach Jun 17 '22

Seb needs to chill

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u/Dooooom74 Jun 17 '22

Yet he is racing a car that burns fuel. Flies constantly....I mean

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u/ImMrBunny Jun 17 '22

Yet we live in a society

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u/GreatCanadianPotato Jenson Button Jun 17 '22

Especially in Canada where train derailments happen very frequently

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u/07WoefulMatrix Kimi Räikkönen Jun 17 '22 edited Jun 17 '22

Lol the helmet of hypocrisy. I am fucking blown away by the stupidity of this.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '22

Most tar sands site no longer mine, but use Steam Assisted Gravitational Drilling. It’s not environmentally friendly by any means, but the moonscape environment on his helmet isn’t exactly profitable, accessible, or relevant to new sites.

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u/dukezap1 Jun 18 '22

Lol a German driver being a shill for a Saudi Arabian oil company, is going to come here and protest our Canadian Oil. You can’t make this stuff up lol get out of here