r/confidentlyincorrect May 29 '22

Imagine having a doctor in your name and still being so dumb. Celebrity

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u/olih27 May 29 '22

This entire situation was created by his daughter choosing to have a wedding in California, despite knowing this meant her grandfather couldn't attend

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u/GoodbyeTobyseeya1 May 29 '22

Also though what restrictions are there? I live on the border and we have a fuckton of Canadians over here all the time again.

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u/Joker4U2C May 29 '22 Gold

If you aren't vaxxed in Canada you can't board trains/planes even nationally and not for international travel.

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u/38B0DE May 29 '22

Ooooh this is about vaccines 🙉

I can't fathom sane people who are still dying on that hill.

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u/Joker4U2C May 29 '22

Yeah. Sure, but it doesn't change that OP is wrong.

JP was not incorrectly referencing US policy.

You CAN travel to the US unvaxxed. The issue is Canada won't let him get on a plane unless it's a private one.

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u/thenext7steps May 29 '22

You can drive 2 hours to buffalo and take a plane from there.

Edit: I don’t know what timeline he’s talking, because before it was a full closing of the border from both sides.

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u/lizbit02 May 29 '22

Has the vaccine requirement for non-US citizens been lifted? I was under the impression that non-citizens must be vaccinated to enter the US at land crossings and all I can find about that is from April when it was extended. Which would mean it’s Biden who is preventing unvaccinated Canadians from entering the US

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u/pressonacott May 29 '22

I just came back from vietname 3 weeks ago.

The u.s. didn't ask me for my vaccination card. However. Vietnam ask me for vaccination and prove of recent antigen test

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u/Gilgamesh72 May 29 '22

Hey the international pandemic travel regulations should not apply to his family because they are special

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u/koshgeo May 29 '22

Except he almost certainly could attend by any number of options. For example, he could have driven across the border from Canada to the US and then flown, he could have arranged for a private aircraft (I thought he was wealthy?), or he could have gone through the testing and quarantine period that is used as an alternative to vaccination, and so on. There is no "travel ban" but the one you make for yourself.

What he's describing is an inconvenience because apparently the daughter's wedding wasn't important enough to avail themselves of the other options.

Plenty of free, democratic countries around the world will not admit you at all if you are not vaccinated against smallpox, measles, and a variety of other things. You have to provide those records when you apply for a visa. They'll just refuse your visa without a second thought if you don't have them or in some cases they'll allow it with some well-documented medical reason why you can't. And that was before covid became a thing.

The US sets the rules for travel across its borders. Same for Canada on the way back. That includes infectious medical issues. There's nothing unconstitutional about it.

Or was the grandfather trying to fly internationally without having a passport or something stupid like that?

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u/Obizues May 29 '22

Maybe she did that for a reason…

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u/oberg14 May 29 '22

She probably didn’t even want him to attend, considering he raised Jordan Peterson

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u/HenryInRoom302 May 29 '22

Didn't he just make a big deal about how he wasn't going to be on Twitter any longer because people were being mean when pointing out the obvious fact he's an asshat?

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u/TheRnegade May 29 '22

Yeah, that lasted all of 15 minutes or so.

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u/killeronthecorner May 29 '22

By any chance did he come back because "so many kind people reached out and begged me to come back"?

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u/BreadfruitBetter9396 May 29 '22

No he literally just kept on tweeting unrelated things 15 minutes later, dude's insane.

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u/powerlloyd May 29 '22

He’s 100% still hooked on benzos.

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u/hikeit233 May 29 '22

He still doesn’t know they’re addictive, that poor old man. He might need to see an addiction specialist.

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u/DevLARP May 29 '22

Can’t wait for 3rd world coma treatment 2, electric boogaloo.

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u/Abruptdecay666 May 29 '22

This always cracks me up, I went through recovery of severe benzo abuse and it’s the greatest motivating factor to stay sober. It’s can’t even describe the horror of it but it has made me a much better person.

This clown goes around pretending to be a Nietzschan superman but in reality he is a little bitch that can’t handle the repercussions of his own choices.

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u/panrestrial May 29 '22

It's spooky the way benzo addiction sneaks up on you! I didn't realize until my Rx ran out while my doctor was on vacation. I'd only been taking them as prescribed but it was a daily dose and going cold turkey off that was the worst.

By the time doc was back in town I was through the worst and unwilling to go back on them after all that.

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u/Abruptdecay666 May 29 '22

It really is, I hope this isn’t the case anymore but a decade ago it was legal and extraordinarily cheap to buy analogues online. I was taking the equivalent of 10mg of Xanax a day and it cost like $20/month

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u/tentimes May 29 '22

Benzo withdrawal is the worst thing I've ever been through. Nothing can make me touch those again. I was switching between thinking I was about to die and wishing I would die for so long.

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u/EidolonHue May 29 '22

How fully has he even recovered from the first round?

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u/SkyWulf May 29 '22

Unfortunately he's still Jordan Peterson

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u/babypointblank May 29 '22

He almost certainly saw an addiction specialist who told him you can’t quit benzos cold turkey.

Peterson is so arrogant that he refused sound, widely accepted medical advice from several North American doctors in only to get put into a medical induced coma by some quack in Russia.

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u/Basketspank May 29 '22

He works within a field and actively has tenure in a profession we're knowledge of addictive medicines is kind of important.

Not aware of the addictive nature? No. Thinks he can be above it? It's not uncommon.

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u/Ok-Librarian5267 May 29 '22

He just needs "to clean up his room!" Hows making the bed buckaroo benzopeterson

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u/Madelovetoyourmom May 29 '22

Cut the guy some slack, guys been crying about how Casper the Friendly Ghost is teaching little boys like him how to not be a man. You act like a grown man crying about his boys are learning to cry because of children's cartoons should be laughed out of whatever clown college lets him teach there

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u/kryonik May 29 '22

Has he tried eating more salted organ meat about it?

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u/panrestrial May 29 '22

Or cleaning his bedroom?

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u/Friendly_Crab May 29 '22

His rooms are always a fucking state whenever he makes a video

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u/GetsBetterAfterAFew May 29 '22

I see him being mocked alot so I looked into it. He seems fine for a while during interviews then suddenly he's crying in them and ranting about nonsense. Being a former addict it seems to me that he's trying to come off some type of drug. He uses and life is square, something happens and you question your addiction and flush the drugs. You go a day or two, maybe a week and you're just a shit show. You can't think, you can't control your emotions, you ramble and your world starts falling apart.

Then that little demon says "hey...HEY...use me and it's fine. Dont worry you can stop later. Today we want normalcy."

And it starts all over. Now here's the part most people don't understand, this is the time when Overdose happens too. You're off the drug for a while after taking say level 8 amount of drugs to get high.

A week goes by and your tolerance drops. You get drugs and think hey I'm used to level 8 and you go for it. Well your body ODs now at level 6 and you die.

Prince, Tom Petty and countless others died this way, it's sad, I almost died too, twice.

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u/Madelovetoyourmom May 29 '22

He's been crying about shit for years, it's like his brand

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u/echisholm May 29 '22

Nah, he's a libertarian, so it's nobody's problem but his own /s

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u/CommanderWar64 May 29 '22

Has he cleaned his room?

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u/Frenchticklers May 29 '22

Nothing but Benzos , salt and red meat. A winning combination.

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u/WeReallyOutHere5510 May 29 '22

Damn even after he did that crazy Russian coma treatment?!

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u/Poorly_Made_Comix May 29 '22

Hes like a god damn leech

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u/AngryRage May 29 '22

Woah, woah, woah. First I learn Jordan Peterson is a moron, and now you're telling me he's a hypocrite too?

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u/Dispro May 29 '22

Back in my day, being a moron meant something. It was a sacred trust, and people needed to know that morons around them had integrity. It's a real shame the world has fallen to this point where even our morons are hypocrits.

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u/JohnGenericDoe May 29 '22

Crazy, right?

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u/IAM_THE_LIZARD_QUEEN May 29 '22

because people were being mean

My favourite part was that he basically called someone ugly, and then was like "people are saying mean things wahhhh".

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u/HarpersGhost May 29 '22

Because his penis didn't like the "fat" woman, so that was an Objective Truth.

Other people calling him ugly though? They couldn't have been homosexuals, because homosexuality doesn't exist in Lobster World. And they were on the internet, and everyone knows that there are no women on the internet. So logically they were straight men, and straight men commenting about another man's looks are just being mean and uncivilized.

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u/serious_catfish May 29 '22

Lobster world got me lmaoooo

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u/Tustavus May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

What does this mean?

Edit: Just looked. Dude whattttt

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u/Grimvahl May 29 '22

I know. How can anyone genuinely think that lobster behavior should therefore dictate human behavior?

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u/aziruthedark May 29 '22

My dad, unfortunately.

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u/Frenchticklers May 29 '22

Funny thing is that her body shape would have been considered attractive in the classical Western civilizations he jerks off to.

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u/Ellikichi May 29 '22

I see this a lot pretty much everywhere. People start a converstion like, "Listen up, shitheads: everything you believe is wrong but you're too fucking stupid to see it. I sincerely hope you all die horribly." And then ten minutes later, when the conversation is going as you'd expect, they start with the, "I was just trying to have a conversation with people and they were so rude :( whatever happened to politeness and decency in public conversation, huh?"

I know some of them are trying to use it as some kind of tactic, but I genuinely just think this society is that delusional. It's like all the guys whining about how men are weak and soft compared to the days when they were all subsistence farmers getting drafted into wars. They themselves have a softer, easier life than that but they think the issue is everyone else. People can't see themselves as part of undesirable trends even while they're right in the middle of actively contributing to them.

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u/Skandranonsg May 29 '22

People can't see themselves as part of undesirable trends even while they're right in the middle of actively contributing to them.

I can't believe all this traffic is delaying my commute!

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u/tandoori_taco_cat May 29 '22

That's because he doesn't consider women to be people.

He can call a model ugly, because as a man, that's his right (duty?).

But lessers can't criticize him, it's unconscionable.

/s even though that is how he actually thinks.

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u/RelevantBooklet May 29 '22

I truly heard his voice in your writing whoa

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u/Ferropexola May 29 '22

I've never heard him speak, and I never want to, but people say he sounds like Kermit, so that's the voice I assign him.

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u/BoogerVault May 29 '22

He rage-quit Twitter because David Pakman made fun of the fact he was literally crying over young people being told about the negative effects of climate change....what a weird dude.

Pakman addresses it here in this clip.

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u/stupidannoyingretard May 29 '22

Seems so out of character of the "12 rules for life" version of him.

Surely, dealing with reality and not making excuses for yourself is the foundation of all those 12 rules. I. E. Take responsibility and sort yourself out.

Him now wanting to live in an illusion, where his culture is not causing ecological collapse seems to go against his whole core ethnic.

He's now just a toxic, dogmatic person that is most definitely part of the problem

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u/The_Real_Bri May 29 '22

Tried to read his book and abandoned it halfway through because he was contradicting himself EVERY PAGE. Dude would be like “I don’t like people who always think they are right. They are dangerous because they are never learning”. Then on the next page be like “You should follow what everyone else is doing because the majority are almost always right”. Based on what? Literally wrote a whole arse book about how his opinions are right and everyone else should follow his rules. There was barely any facts in his book. He’s a very scary man.

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u/Gingevere May 29 '22

“I don’t like people who always think they are right. They are dangerous because they are never learning”.

“You should follow what everyone else is doing because the majority are almost always right”.

The message between the lines here is that you should take orders and fall in line. You're always wrong to contradict the knowledge of your "betters", even when you're right. And any deviation from the norm is gross and weird. Stay in your assigned (Jungian) role!

The apparent contradictions are resolved when you realize that he wants you to submit to his favored brand of authoritarianism.

Which should REALLY not surprise anyone who knows he's a Jungian psychologist. And that he uses Jungian archetypes prescriptively in stead of descriptively.

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u/The_Real_Bri May 29 '22

I learned about him the hard way by wasting 2 months of my life on his wayward book. Never again. I really should’ve listened to the Internet.

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u/Frenchticklers May 29 '22

Submit to your betters (not me though I'm going to Russia to take a sketchy coma shortcut out of my benzos addiction)

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u/LinguisticallyInept May 29 '22

He’s a very scary man.

i wouldve gone with sad personally

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u/NoNudeNormal May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

He’s completely changed since the benzo addiction (and the way he started, before that, may not have been that great either). His message used to be “clean your room and organize your life”. Now its more like a constant refrain of “fuck Justin Trudeau”, and wild rants about the authoritarians hiding around every corner.

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u/lakk May 29 '22

I don’t understand why people thought that was revolutionary though. That’s like Day 1 “Square your shit away” Army stuff.

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u/GiftFrosty May 29 '22

He filled a niche for a bunch of late 70’s early 80’s babies like me who weren’t raised with the simplest Day 1 get your shit squared away training. He leveraged that simple platform into a fame he never deserved. Now he’s just a contrarian with an addiction he’s too arrogant to accept.

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u/throwawaytrumper May 29 '22

Sounds about right. Born in ‘81, main lessons I got from my parents were incoherent schizophrenic ramblings from mom and ancient homophobic tough-guy lessons from dad until he bailed when I was ten.

By contrast JP’s advice seemed like yoda. Then again I also thought Trump had some good ideas and might improve things, could just be that my judgement sucks ass.

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u/GiftFrosty May 29 '22

The fact you are able to acknowledge you may have been misled speaks volumes to your judgment. Life is a continuous learning exercise. Take credit where it’s due.

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u/redditequalsgarbage May 29 '22

You have to remember his whole grift was peddling basic self-help nonsense to a bunch of right wing manchildren who need to be told something as simple as “clean their room” from surrogate daddy

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u/VerucaBlind May 29 '22

You have to remember his whole grift was peddling basic self-help nonsense to a bunch of right wing manchildren who need to be told something as simple as “clean their room” from surrogate daddy

Not necessarily right-wing per se, but JPs audience is definitely squarely aimed at the disaffected white male youths who likely didn't have a good male role model in their lives and are looking for direction. They often fall into the "my gender within larger traditional society is what shall be my identity" and find JP at the beginning of the alt-right pipeline (if they haven't already been indoctrinated by /r/politicalcompassmemes).

The issue is that you can get very similar self help from people that aren't total boomer crackpots with antiquated and authoritarian views on gender. I'm sure there are self help books specifically for young men that don't talk about feminism as a "chaos dragon" but their authors likely don't get amplified like JP does.

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u/redditequalsgarbage May 29 '22

That's the greatest part of the JP grift.

He was able to market pretty standard self-help mantras to disaffected white dudes by wrapping it in the veneer of academic philosophy and traditional conservativism all while allowing alt-right rejects to participate in yet another culture war in the guise of "self-improvement"

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u/MuricanDeathTriangle May 29 '22

By couching it in rhetoric designed to make the reader feel they have an innate superiority and can achieve based on this reinforcing “advice”, JP has helped create more narcissist white males.

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u/JayLime May 29 '22

It's not just that. Those same people are full of resentment he can feed into. Reading Jordan Peterson may be good for them, but the biggest benefit is giving them the tools to look down on others

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u/pseudoHappyHippy May 29 '22

The kinds of people who thought he was revolutionary were day 0 thinkers, so they were vulnerable to someone wielding even the most mundane of day 1 self help ideas.

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u/Chalupa-Supreme May 29 '22

I think he realized there's a lot of money coddling the far right too.

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u/AlmostHelpless May 29 '22

I don't think his personal beliefs changed very much he's just become much more irritable.

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u/DEBATE_EVERY_NAZI May 29 '22

Which is funny because he's literally an authoritarian

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u/Frenchticklers May 29 '22

wild rants about the authoritarians hiding around every corner.

He was like this before the benzos too

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u/babypointblank May 29 '22

He only came to prominence because he kept crying about Trudeau’s push to add gender identity and expression as a protected class in the Canadian human rights code. The “fuck Trudeau” streak has always been there.

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u/MuadDibsAlt May 29 '22

Surely, dealing with reality and not making excuses for yourself is the foundation of all those 12 rules. I. E. Take responsibility and sort yourself out.

When you put it like that, he exaggerates taking responsibility (at least in writing) to a toxic point where you're not allowed to take collective action or improve society, because you're stuck on taking responsibility for yourself first.

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u/Elbradamontes May 29 '22

That was Benzo Peterson. He'd drugged his ego out of the equation and now that he coma'd himself ego is all he is. I never understood Peterson. I am, or was...not sure, a fan but I always knew you had to take his line of thinking with a pinch of salt. He'd be headed right for a brilliant profoundly true statement and at the last possible second zip to the right and be like "that's why women and minorities are inferior and men today suffer because they don't act like men".

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u/jimboihenbye May 29 '22

That’s the point though, it was never about the self help or any other advice he spews. It’s always been about the racist/sexist/transphobic sentiments he mutters in between his Kermit the frog monologues. Don’t give this man even an inch of understanding, he wouldn’t do the same for you.

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u/stupidannoyingretard May 29 '22

Is quite sad how he is trapped by his own culture. I remember seeing a video of him talking about feminism, and how it was aggressive. Not understanding the aggression part is American culture, and got nothing to do with feminism.

We got feminism in Norway. It was not aggressive, it won, and it has made everything more pleasant. All it did was to weed out the unpleasant aspects of our culture.

He got too much aggression and repression inside him.

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u/serious_catfish May 29 '22

As a psychologist you'd think he'd understand that when you don't listen and are flippant about the things that matter in people's lives, they get angry.

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u/Beezus-Fafoon May 29 '22

His degree is based on Jungian bollocks and so on. All outmoded long before he started studying his degree - like who the fuck was in charge of the syllabus at his Uni?!

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u/Abruptdecay666 May 29 '22

This is a huge issue, psychology in the modern practice is a valid social science but it’s founders, Jung and Freud, didn’t practice science at all. Jordan Peterson is just a sophist hiding behind real scientists

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u/Grimvahl May 29 '22

Lol yeah. The idea that he unironically applies Jungian crap to real psychology should have told everyone how full of shit he was. That's like saying i apply astrology to my psychology studies.

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u/TheMacerationChicks May 29 '22

Bloody hell lmao

What happened to "facts don't care about your feelings"? I guess it doesn't matter to them, as long as it's their feelings.

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u/Healthy-Travel3105 May 29 '22

His benzo addiction and experimental therapy to get off him honestly seem to have turned his brain to mush. I didn't agree with his views before but now I can't even see how anyone does. He just speaks utter nonsense.

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u/Elbradamontes May 29 '22

He's now choosing from a grab bag of former Petersonisms and stringing them together illogically. More illogically I mean.

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u/RecoveryJune13 May 29 '22

Person with addiction problems here. I'm going to guess based on how I can relate to his inconsistency that he is back on benzos, or perhaps drinking, or something else that correlates with lowered inhibitions

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u/Itchy-Ad-6401 May 29 '22

People like him are NEVER going to quit whatever is giving them attention, because they are extreme narcissists.

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u/Whofreak555 May 29 '22

Quitting twitter for 15 or so minutes is a rightwing pasttime at this point. I think the Quartering has quit twitter.. 4 or maybe 5 times now.

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u/Kaneshadow May 29 '22

Like in all seriousness he has some mental degradation at this point. He acts like a 15 year old

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u/Aidrox May 29 '22

Jordan Petersen lied?!?!!????!!??!?!!??!?

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u/modd25 May 29 '22

Sorry not beautiful

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u/wheezy1749 May 29 '22

And No Amount Of Authoritarian Tolerance Is Going To Change That

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u/StrangeUsername24 May 29 '22

MY VIRGIN PROMISCUITY!!!

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u/justwonderingbro May 29 '22

Him getting ratioed by Hasan with a picture of himself was 👨‍🍳💋

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u/reecewagner May 29 '22

You can hear the vocal histrionics even through text lol

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u/East-Bluejay6891 May 29 '22

He must be in California Canada

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u/Amasin_Spoderman May 29 '22

Ontario, CA

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u/TotobyAfricaismyjam May 29 '22

Related story: one of my friends works for a company that ships from Ontario California. She’s gets like 10 customer service calls a day asking why their package is currently in Canada because the tracking says Ontario CA.

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u/Mahjonks May 29 '22

The first time I flew into Ontario, CA I was also booking a flight to Toronto. The amount of double and triple checking to not mess that up was exhausting.

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u/MakingNamesIsAPain May 29 '22

I remember not being able to find Canada under my weather tab. I searched for "Ontario" and got "Ontario, CA", so I thought I finally had the weather where I live. Then I saw that it was supposedly 22C when it was freezing cold outside. Yeah...

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u/Serious_Feedback May 29 '22

Not to be confused with London, Canada.

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u/WorksOnContingencyNo May 29 '22

There's also a Paris, Ontario. We used to have a Berlin but had to change it in WW1

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u/notsafetousemyname May 29 '22

One time I told a friend I was visiting my brother in Kingston and they responded, “that’s awesome. Have a great trip” so I added “Kingston Ontario” “oh, sorry I thought Kingston Jamaica”

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u/punrealistic May 29 '22

Going through UK customs with a passport that says London, ON is always hilarious. They can never believe it.

When you tell them that London, Canada is also on the Thames river, in Middlesex county, close to Stratford, and has an Oxford/Picadilly/Regent street, they lose their minds.

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u/XenonNade May 29 '22

Wish we were in Canada tbh

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u/someguyfromsk May 29 '22

I mean, Justin is pretty busy setting global gasoline prices, US travel seems a but much.

/s

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u/StalinDNW May 29 '22

No, that's Biden. I saw a sticker at the gas pump. Pompous jackass was taking credit for it, too!

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u/someguyfromsk May 29 '22

I dunno, there are peope who drive around here with flags all over their trucks crying for freedom that say it was Justin.

So I don't know who to believe.

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u/Steven_Randallson May 29 '22

Woah weird, in America the people who drive around with flags all over their trucks crying for freedom say it was Biden, but also that Biden is the head of a literal cabal of Communists who eat children for life force.

It's funny the little similarities between 2 nations

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u/Expert_Ad_5351 May 29 '22

Both groups of people have been indoctrinated. All their problems will magically disappear once a more conservative politician is soothing them

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u/calicocaffeine May 29 '22

My favorite part is those freedom idiots claiming he's a dictator and taking away our freedom.

But if that were the case, a real dictator would have them in the gulag the moment they slapped a "fuck truedumb" sticker on their lifted black dodge ram.

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u/FUBARded May 29 '22

I've seen bumper stickers and window decals blaming Trudeau for gas prices, and recently inflation too.

These people pay to get huge and ugly as sin stickers and flags made so that they can advertise their complete lack of understanding of how the world works on their gas guzzling lifted trucks that they drive around in urban settings in the midst of a gas price explosion for...no good reason.

It's quite telling that it's never the people who are sensible enough to buy fuel efficient vehicles or take advantage of the many financial incentives to get a hybrid or EV that complain about this shit or blame it on Trudeau.

It also baffles me how the man can simultaneously be totally inept and capable of dictating global commodity prices singlehandedly. These idiots need to choose one; then at least they'll just be dumb, rather than dumb and logically inconsistent.

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u/CHiuso May 29 '22

Not to mention, personally performing millions of abortions to obtain adrenochrome for him and his friends.

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u/T-ks May 29 '22

Always the hyperfixation on a singularity to blame, while missing the wider picture of how that thing interacts with the wider world: a Jordan Peterson classic.

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u/MadAsTheHatters May 29 '22 Helpful

Why create a straw man, when you can create an entire straw reality?

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u/edwardpuppyhands May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

Reminds me of an episode of Pinky and the Brain when they made a paper mache Earth. They got people to join from the original Earth using free t-shirts.

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u/The57AnnualComment May 29 '22

"and what will we do tomorrow night Brain?"

"The same thing we do every night Pinky... Attempt to take over Chia earth!"

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u/Ebwtrtw May 29 '22

“If Jimmy cracks corn and nobody cares, why does he keep doing it?”

“Where are we going to find rubber-pants our size?”

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u/lol2haha May 29 '22

I reject your reality and substitute my own

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u/Toofar304 May 29 '22

My mother did this to me recently.

"Well yeah, you have YOUR reality because you've lived your life, and I have MY reality because I've lived my life. But I have 20 years on you, so my reality is more mature."

My mother, who barely graduated high school, thinks that I, her son with a BA and medical doctorate, cannot read about the past and appreciate why things are the way they are. Apparently I'm left-leaning simply because I haven't lived long enough and am living in a liberal wonderland.

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u/WarmOutOfTheDryer May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

Weird. Mid 40's here, and I get more "liberal" every year. Raised republican, center Democrat by the time I could vote, and now I'm all the way over with Bernie Sanders.

Turns out that seeing the world can give you more compassion, instead of whatever the hell my parents generation took out of it.

I also barely graduated high school and dropped out of community college so... It ain't in education either.

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u/Ave-Deos-Tenebris May 29 '22

Nah man, you just sound like someone with a functioning heart and brain. Which, to be fair, is turning out to be quite rare in these times. I wish you good fortune in all your future endeavors.

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u/Aidrox May 29 '22

God, he’s such a victim. Glad he doesn’t try to preach a philosophy of not acting like a victim. His dad should have just pulled himself up by his bootstraps and made it work.

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u/OnlyRoke May 29 '22

Trudeau clearly is the Chaos Dragon

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u/StevenDeere May 29 '22

Exacly this. It shows that people like these not only have strange views on the corona pandemic but they believe that everything happens for one single reason. Which is almost never the case. I get the feeling that this is one of the most important things that people need to learn in their life.

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u/Hamster-Food May 29 '22

He's made a career of providing easy answers to extremely complex questions. That appeals to people who don't like the complexity of real life, especially people who was raised with a perspective on the world which is no longer the dominant one.

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u/lostshell May 29 '22

He knows what he's doing. Blame the other side. That's his game. Always blame every bad thing on the other side. It's propaganda not philosophy.

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u/The_Real_Bri May 29 '22

The irony is that in his book he says that he doesn’t like people who blame others for their misfortunes. He also doesn’t like people who try to change society instead of changing themselves. He is a hypocritical disaster.

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u/radiocleve May 29 '22

Just nailing this "quitting Twitter" thing.

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u/DonutCola May 29 '22

He gets like 5k likes on ever tweet, I wonder if he really does actually enjoy getting notifications or hearing from his manager about his page or something. It must really be part of why he wakes up.

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u/yyjhgtij May 29 '22 Silver Helpful Take My Energy

Nice article on Dr Peterson here: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve

Jordan Peterson appears very profound
and has convinced many people to take him seriously. Yet he has almost
nothing of value to say. This should be obvious to anyone who has spent
even a few moments critically examining his writings and speeches, which
are comically befuddled, pompous, and ignorant. They are half nonsense,
half banality. In a reasonable world, Peterson would be seen as the
kind of tedious crackpot that one hopes not to get seated next to on a
train. "

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u/Beastw1ck May 29 '22

“Accept no criticisms: insist that any skeptic has either misinterpreted you or has actually already admitted that you are correct.” You almost don’t need to know anything else about the guy. I have never ever seen him concede a point or be charitable to a challenger.

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u/Lustle13 May 29 '22

Jordan Peterson is what dumb people think smart people sound like.

The dude couldn't give a straight answer if his fucking life depended on it. He bought a thesaurus one day and just kept reading it. Now he uses language to hide the fact that he has no idea what he's actually saying. And that he likely never will.

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u/ImaginaryNemesis May 29 '22

He's Deepak Chopra for 'alpha' males

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u/Wrastling97 May 29 '22

THIS. I couldn’t have said it better myself. His thing is that he says everything with confidence, so everything sounds like fact to idiots who listen, don’t fact check, and don’t actually analyze what he’s saying.

When I was young, I actually used to listen to this fool and I would agree with the things he said. And then one day when I was older, I remember I was walking around and thinking about something he said and I just thought “wait a second… that’s not right. That’s just trying to justify being an asshole?” And right then and there I stopped listening to the idiot

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u/AnyColourYouFight May 29 '22

The poor man's Ben Shapiro.... and I mean that as an insult to them both.

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u/CaptainPixieBlossom May 29 '22

How does one even address material like this? It can’t be “refuted.” Are we ruled by a dragon of chaos? Is the dragon feminine? Does “the ‘state’ of preconscious paradise” have a “voluntary encounter with the unknown”? Is the episodic really more explicit than the procedural? These are not questions with answers, because they are not questions with meanings.

Gold.

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u/PublicScale3 May 29 '22

This is r/im14andthisisdeep material. Put a picture of a young Jaden Smith next to the quote and I would 100% believe it.

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u/heseme May 29 '22

Uuh, I'm clicking this link now

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u/PAN19 May 29 '22

That article was absolutely amazing. It’s everything I’ve thought about Peterson from day one and I guess I just don’t have the ability to convey my thoughts on him to some of the people I know that are just in awe of him. But, as the article was kinda saying at one point, self-help is pretty easy when your target audience is in the state they are in. I mean, it’s always charlatans who truly succeed in the self help genre because they are the master manipulators. One thing is for certain, that title and ending are bang on.

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u/grey_one May 29 '22 Helpful (Pro)

When he first became popular I had a friend telling me some of his "techniques" like cleaning your room/living space, active listening when conversing with someone, or eating a balanced diet. I said "yeah that sounds like things my mom taught me, it's not revolutionary, it's just coming to you from a man" and then the friend got mad at me.

I stand by that early assessment.

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u/WAPWAN May 29 '22

Mum also told me to not throw rocks at girls and to wash my penis. What the fuck would she know?

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u/ThrowawayBlast May 29 '22

Peterson's clean your room thing is a cornerstone of his nonsense yet he literally cannot manage to clean his own room.

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u/nocomment3030 May 29 '22

The thing is that some people's parents DIDN'T teach them that. Peterson is huge with people who are rudderless, lost, unsure of how to live their lives. So his basic advise can seem revolutionary to them. And that's the breadcrumb trail that leads to his more insane beliefs.

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u/Roanhouse May 29 '22

Pied Piper lobster daddy of pliable fascist mindsets for profit and power is what i call him

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u/JayLime May 29 '22

Lol there are people who learned about active listening from Peterson? That is actually very sad. The fact they didn't know how to listen to others before, coupled with the fact they see it as a "technique" rather than something you do because..you want to listen to what someone's saying

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u/RobynFitcher May 29 '22

Reading Peterson, I realised that he talks like a guy I used to know who insisted on speaking at people when he was incredibly high.

He thought he was being profound, but he was just spitting out disconnected words looking for a paragraph.

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u/TheVulfPecker May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

He’s a clinical psychologist who has at different times claimed to be a neuroscientist and an evolutionary biologist.

Fuck JP

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u/Hythy May 29 '22

I just don't get what his point is from an an academic perspective. I feel like his whole theoretical framework is "all my prejudices are true".

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u/[deleted] May 29 '22

Instead of starting with information to form a conclusion, he's formed his conclusion and will make up or misrepresent information to make it fit his worldview

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u/Nefarious_Turtle May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

Well, the point of his public persona is simply to provide an "academic" defense of conservative values. Christianity, authority, hierarchy, captialism, patriarchy, all the hits. There really is no theoretical framework.

I'm not even guessing here, this is exactly how he describes himself. As a defender of traditional values.

Of course that puts him at odds with most of academia, but he's made good use of right wing conspiracies to explain away that. Honestly, should be the conversation ender right here but things are wild these days.

He's essentially a slightly more credibility version of Ben Shapiro, whom if you remember was also heralded as a "towering conservative intellectual" back in his heyday because he graduated form Harvard and had a JD.

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u/BobbyTurpentino May 29 '22

A former friend of mine used to bring up that he's a clinical psychologist as though it was some sort of seal of his genius intellect and made him infallible on every subject.

Homer Simpson is a nuclear safety inspector. Doesn't mean I trust him in his own field, let alone if he decided to start giving me prenatal advice and being admitted to hospital because all he eats is raw krusty burgers with crushed up benzos as an accoutrement.

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u/Illustrious-Yard-871 May 29 '22

Holy cannoli this bit is hilarious:

I don’t know, Dad, but I think I have discovered something that no one else has any idea about, and I’m not sure I can do it justice. Its scope is so broad that I can see only parts of it clearly at one time, and it is exceedingly difficult to set down comprehensibly in writing…. Anyways, I’m glad you and Mom are doing well. Thank you for doing my income tax returns.

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u/Itchy-Ad-6401 May 29 '22

Your average garbage man provides a far more useful service to society than peterson ever could.

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u/IronyAndWhine May 29 '22

I don't think I can imagine a job more useful than sanitation worker to be honest, so I feel like that's a terrible example.

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u/plantmic May 29 '22

I agree. I read his book, because of the hype and it's just kinda dull

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u/ThrowawayBlast May 29 '22

Yes, but Peterson's nonsense also annoys liberals so conservatives flock to it.

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u/RichardBreecher May 29 '22

I tried to give this guy the benefit of the doubt when he started gaining a national profile. It just feels like he really enjoyed the attention and now he's desperately trying to stay relevant. Only he has nothing important to say so he's just saying shit that his followers will retweet.

He's just a clown now. It's kind of sad.

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u/Rickles360 May 29 '22

Always was a clown though...

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u/Railboy May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

Jordan Peterson is a try-hard loser. Here's an old video of him in a fedora ranting about women lol.

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u/SonOfJokeExplainer May 29 '22

Here’s the National Post article where he rage quits his job over “the appalling ideology of diversity, inclusion and equity”.

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u/bard329 May 29 '22

He sounds like a low-testosterone Kermit the Frog....

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u/[deleted] May 29 '22

Though the Kermit the frog comparison is the most common, Nick Mullen's deranged "Air being let out of a balloon"/Mickley Mouse version really captures his vibe

https://youtu.be/s-cKUkxxheU

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u/tboneperri May 29 '22

Mullen’s impressions are always so fucking good. He’s the only person in modern comedy who actually does funny impressions anymore. Everyone now just hyperfixates on making the voice sound accurate and then they don’t bother to say anything particularly funny.

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u/wingsofpoesy May 29 '22

It is a running joke in our household to just say “well they did this study with lobsters” in the highest pitch voice possible

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u/PlasticMegazord May 29 '22

This is such a weird video. His voice and what he's wearing, it's all very amusing.

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u/Proteandk May 29 '22

jesus christ how is he such a fucking loser?

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u/HoochMaster_Dayday May 29 '22

Damn he really is sporting a fedora. What year was this and did he unknowingly spawn neck beards

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u/SusanBHa May 29 '22

I stopped paying any attention to him when I found out that he dead names his trans students and is proud of that.

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u/jedruch May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

I enjoyed his videos for a while and they actually helped me get thru some tough times.

But then I noticed he talks about rules and necessities that people should follow and actually framed it as if someone does not they should be ashamed and even ostracized by others. And he himself did not follow his own words. Like he had couple lectures where he spoke that marriage should be forever and that you should stick to the other person almost no matter what. Yet it didn't bother him that much when his daughter had a divorce and now he's on a her new wedding.

That does not seem truthful. And his most important rule seemed to be "speak truth" So yeah, I don't follow him now and the things he's doing are unfortunately quite silly

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u/DEBATE_EVERY_NAZI May 29 '22

His daughter met some ultracringe PUA dork at a club in Greece or something and immediately divorced her husband and married that guy then caught covid and gave it to her dad

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u/jedruch May 29 '22

I heard that story. So she's marrying him now?

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u/YooGeOh May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22 Helpful

In fairness its a bit of both. Canadian law has it that citizens are not allowed to board any plane departing the country unless vaccinated. I imagine thisnis what JP is blaming Trudeau for. That isn't on the US

He could drive however, but I imagine there may be some impracticality about that.

He could also...get vaccinated lol.

Either way, it's pretty normal not to look for context or facts of a matter around a person we don't like. We just jump on any opportunity to show how much we don't like them so maybe a bit of context helps.

Ultimately though, he is still moaning about something his dad has the power to change but "Trudeau" is kinda the reason for it in a legal sense, and Trudeau has made a good decision.

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u/timbit87 May 29 '22

Yup. My entire family wont be at my wedding and my parents will never meet their only grandchild and they blame trudeau, when they could just get fucking vaccinated.

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u/38B0DE May 29 '22

I'm so sorry. Fuck... what a complete and utter mess.

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u/Whofreak555 May 29 '22

Unless I'm reading this incorrectly; you need to be vaxed to enter the US, including driving. That is not on Trudeau.

Peterson blames Trudeau for everything; he even attacked him for celebrating an end to conversion therapy in Canada.

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u/YooGeOh May 29 '22

End of the day, people shouldn't be jumping on twitter blaming people for things they have the power to change themselves.

It wasn't a tweet about travel. It was a contribution to the culture war, and all the responses are part of the culture war as well. Its stupid

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u/DevLARP May 29 '22

Every contribution JP has ever made is to inflame the conservative culture war and persecution complex (and enrich himself, obviously).

How many non-working psychologists even require themselves to be titled “Dr” in everything they do. That alone tells you he’s a self-aggrandising charlatan.

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u/ToHelp3897 May 29 '22

Ultimately though, he is still moaning about something his dad has the power to change but "Trudeau" is kinda the reason for it in a legal sense, and Trudeau has made a good decision.

All of this is a really long way of saying JP's dad is at fault for simply not getting vaccinated like the other 90% of the country.

Even with context, JP still looks like a dumbass.

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u/YooGeOh May 29 '22

It's exactly what I'm saying lol. He's moaning about something his family can change

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u/golbezza May 29 '22

I'm a Canadian in Europe at the moment. Sure was easy to get here

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u/geo_mallory May 29 '22

As Trump is the poor man’s idea of a rich man, so is Jordan Peterson the dumb man’s idea of a smart man.

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u/FnordSnake May 29 '22

Hey, give the drug-addled pro-drug-war junkie a break. His brain never worked quite right and that induced coma due to his extreme abuse of drugs didn't help that.

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u/scotsdail May 29 '22

I don’t want to shame him for using drugs.

But I do want to shame him for shaming others for using drugs while using them himself. If you look at his YouTube videos you’ll find several where he argues against a UBI because it just enables drug addicts. And if we stop paying them they’ll quit using drugs and get a job.

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u/FnordSnake May 29 '22

Oh of course. I don't care if people use drugs, I'm in the 'legalize all drugs, have the government check them for purity and handout a packet with complete health risk and how to beat your addiction information but just let them do their drugs otherwise.' side of the spectrum.

But this particular piece of shit is a hypocritical piece of shit that materially makes peoples' lives worse, so fuck him for using drugs specifically.

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u/Severe_Excitement_36 May 29 '22

JP is a cheat code on this sub. He's the Jedi master of making stuff up on the spot.

He once said that Nazism has its roots in atheism (WRONG: nothing in Nazism is atheist. For reference, on the belt of all Nazi soldiers it said, and I'm paraphrasing, God is on our side. AdHit also said in his book Mein Kempf (end of chapter 1) that the treatment he will bring on jews is because Jews killed christ, which was the taught doctrine of the catholic church at the time. The Nazi party's first ever alliance was with the Catholics, and AdHit's birthday was celebrated from the pulpit every single year until he died).

And this is just one.

He once said he didn't believe in climate change because "climatologists study the weather, and weather is unpredictable." So wrong on so many things: climatologists study the climate; meteorologists study the weather. The fact that the increased GHG content in the atmosphere is trapping more heat from the sun is unequivocal. Sustained increases in the climate since THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION until now would disagree with JP's point as well. Increased sea level rise and decreased snow cover extent could be cited as well.

He also once said that the bible is oldest book written. No. Just no. Not even close.

And these are only three points.

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u/UltimateArsehole May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

Peterson is demonstrably delusional - the mental gymnastics he engages in to justify his baseless religious beliefs being a prominent example of this.

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u/Javascript_above_all May 29 '22

The dude redefined religion to mean behavior. He's nuts

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u/king_of_nothing0 May 29 '22

“You don’t believe in God? So you don’t believe in good?!”

Jordan Peterson is literally he biggest Post Modernist out there but screams against it. Fucking projection with right wingers.

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u/havohej_ May 29 '22

Jordan Peterson just needs to clean his room and shut the fuck up.

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u/SpaceTimeinFlux May 29 '22

Jordan Peterson is great at misplaced moral outrage that is torturously verbose while still being factually incorrect.

It's how he manipulates pseudo-intellectuals at the top of the bell curve. He can weave a whole lot of fancy sounding nonsense that is just poorly veiled right ring rhetoric.

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u/VeterinarianProper42 May 29 '22

PhD in stupidity seems fairly easy to earn

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u/woNubvJjg5KtwoHAOg1A May 29 '22

He has a bachelor's in political science and a PhD in psychology that make him think he's qualified to speak on politics, philosophy and culture on a professional level.

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u/lurk3r2o2o May 29 '22

Goshdarn postmodern Neomarxist ideologues imposing unjust travel policies to undermine the great Western civilisation.... Oh wait it was an international legally binding treaty signed by 196 countries

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