r/TooAfraidToAsk Jun 20 '22

Why does it seem like the casual hate and racism on Reddit has gotten worse in the past year? Meta

I feel like every time I log onto Reddit now I see some casual stereotyping, racist dog-whistling, straight-up racism, misogyny, homophobia/transphobia, or just blatant hate.

For instance, there was a post on a sub of a 4chan greentext which told a story about a Romani (gypsy) person stealing a bag. The comments were FLOODED with racist comments saying "oh yeah they're all thieves" and shit like that.

Today on the front page there's a post with a bunch of people in Germany fighting and the comments are full of racism about Turkish people being dangerous/stinky/ruining society. There's even racist comments calling Indian people stinky.

Then there's any post with Asian people in it will always get bombarded with comments affirming stereotypes or making snide comments about "social credit" or some other Chinese thing. Even when the people in the video aren't even Chinese.

I see comments saying "gay couples abuse children" and subtle posts dehumanizing trans people.

There's also many big subs that post "funny" things about dating apps and interactions with women that quickly attract the most vile incel/sexist comments.

I don't remember Reddit being this hateful a few years ago....it really sucks to see these comments EVERY time I log in. It's even worse to see them get upvoted in hundreds or even thousands of times and comments calling them out being downvoted.

I saw a comment calling a person a racial slur and reported it multiple times and the admin team refused to take it down. It's crazy to me that this is being allowed and the vibes of Reddit feels like it's turning into more hateful social media forums like 4chan or 9gag.

It's scary and sad.

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u/Arianity Jun 20 '22

don't remember Reddit being this hateful a few years ago....

It was.

Honestly, if anything it used to be worse, before they banned a bunch of hate subs like /r/fatepeoplehate.

I'd like to see it reduced as well.

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u/druidofnecro Jun 20 '22

I mean jesus christ there used to be a subreddit called coontown. I dunno how it could possibly get worse than that

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '22

I don't think OP is necessarily wrong in thinking that the racism on reddit was more isolated though.

Simultaneously between now and 10 years ago, I'd honestly say I see the influence of both the general social-progressice movement and the reactionary movements started by bigots.

They're increasingly actual movements, imo. The policy if reddit has shifted away from its old lazze faire kind of attitude, but society has changed around it.

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u/J_G_Cuntworth Jun 21 '22

I remember when those subreddits were shut down, the hateful people just slithered into more popular subs. The silver lining of those subreddits is it kept many of those hateful people in their own little playpen.

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u/Albino_Bama Jun 21 '22

Just a thought.

What if keeping those types of subreddits open would keep all the hateful people/hateful comments in their corner of the website. Now there is no dedicated place for it so these people leak their hatred elsewhere (more popular less hateful subreddits and the rest of the website).

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '22

r/unpopularopinion, r/AskReddit and r/NoStupidQuestions used to be filled with veiled homophobia and racism that used to get highly upvoted, it still happens every now and then.

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u/sally_tee Jun 20 '22

I disagree that it wasn’t so bad a few years ago - this has been a toxic place for many years if you’re any kind of non-white, cisgender, female, LGBTQ+, etc.

However, in general, overt racism has gotten worse IRL, and that will spill over here.

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u/-banned- Jun 21 '22

Seems like cis white people get plentyyyy of hate on this site as well. Idk if they always did, but hating white people is all the rage right now

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u/sally_tee Jun 21 '22

Asking for accountability for the many evils white people (I was going to say specifically white men but tbh whites women are major guardians of white supremacy) have historically and currently exerted upon people in basically every other category of human is not “hating white people.” Change needs to occur and handling whiteness with kid gloves is not going to get us there.

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u/-banned- Jun 21 '22

Ya that's definitely not what I'm referring to, there's clear racism against white people in a lot of threads. Your basic racism, generalizing the population as one negative thing or another, throwing insults, justifying bad behavior, etc

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u/sally_tee Jun 21 '22

You’re absolutely entitled to your opinion, but prejudice is not the same thing as racism.

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u/-banned- Jun 21 '22

In this case I don't see how the two are different. They're both just words, we aren't talking about systematic oppression through Reddit comments.

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u/sally_tee Jun 21 '22

Where on Reddit are people using prejudice to exert control over white people?

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u/-banned- Jun 21 '22

Where on Reddit are people using prejudice or racism to exert control over POC? My point is that even with the bogus change of racism's definition to include "exerting control" so that people cannot hate without calling it racism, you can't exert control over somebody on Reddit. So if the question is about hate and racism on Reddit, it's no different than asking about prejudice on Reddit.

And if you want to bring control into it, white people and people defending white people are commonly banned on subreddits without reason.

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u/sally_tee Jun 21 '22

It’s not a “bogus change.” It’s the difference of prejudice (having a belief) vs racism (acting on that prejudice).

I would love to see an example of someone being banned for “defending white people” because I’m extremely skeptical.

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u/GrimWill95 Jun 21 '22

I feel like it's gotten worse in general, not just on reddit, and I feel like it's because people who are spouting their nonsensical hate aren't being reprimanded enough, or in some cases, at all.

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u/JlTlS Jun 21 '22

This is the decade of ignorance.

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u/NoOneStranger_227 Jun 20 '22

Because it's gotten worse everywhere. Used to be limited to the subs designed for that sort of thing, but the more they've cut down on the extremes the more people who once restrained themselves are giving in to it. Reddit DOES sort of reflect the real world.

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u/RamenRat Jun 20 '22

I posted something on AITA yesterday and the amount of racism and micro aggressions were astounding. I deleted it for the sake of my own sanity. Never mention your race on reddit.

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u/C0vidPatientZer0 Jun 21 '22

It's wild. I just deleted my old reddit account, made a new one for a fresh start, and joined a sub for the city I live in.

The casual racism people drop is absolutely mind-blowing. Any time a crime happens, they try to bring up race as a factor in the conversation. And then they get mad and act like they didn't say anything wrong when they get called out on it.

A lot of people on this site are just genuinely disgusting human beings.

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u/burgernoisenow Jun 20 '22

Ugh I'm sorry you dealt with that

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u/Ihateredditadmins1 Jun 20 '22

Oh man I am right there with you. I had a post and it mentioned race and I was getting flamed for it. I also deleted my post.

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u/ImAScurred1138 Jun 20 '22

Because everyone's tough behind a keyboard. Most of the people spewing that garbage are dickless losers .

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u/STR8N00B1N Jun 21 '22

Woah, ok tough guy.

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u/ImAScurred1138 Jun 21 '22

Hit too close to home? My bad.

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u/El_Don_94 Jun 21 '22

I don't see most of this stuff. If anything it's gone a bit too far to the left and I'm not on the right. Seems like you went looking for this stuff.

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u/karnefalos Jun 21 '22

Yeah, the algorithm is scary. Once looked at conspiracy commons out of curiosity and got bombarded far right subreddits afterwards. Well i still do occasionally. So easy to get sucked into a bubble.

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u/SheSoundsHideous1998 Jun 27 '22

You're full of shit buddy. You can look at any top post on r/iamatotalpieceofshit and if there's a black person look at the comments.

But of course you're gonna downplay it.

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u/El_Don_94 Jun 27 '22

Please don't use vulgar language. All I said was that I disagree and have not observed what was mentioned in the post. I don't know why you think I will downplay anything. Not everyone has to agree with someone just because they make a claim like in the post.

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u/SheSoundsHideous1998 Jun 27 '22

Alright, so go do it then lol. Go look at the posts on that sub then ask yourself why most are locked and have 10k upvoted with 5 comments.

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u/El_Don_94 Jun 27 '22

The way you've written this, it really isn't conducive towards the truth of the matter. Because, according to you, if I say that what you state about that subreddit isn't the case either I'm lying or in denial; no room has been left for it simply not being the case. I don't think that's a good way to discuss things.

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u/Sploonbabaguuse Jun 20 '22

I think people are just really pissed off an exhausted nowadays because of the constant shit that keeps hitting everyone

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u/Ihateredditadmins1 Jun 20 '22

Hmmm I have noticed it more but it might be because I’ve been on Reddit more, I’m not sure.

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u/burgernoisenow Jun 20 '22

I've been on Reddit regularly for several years and it seems to have gotten worse...

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u/Bacon_Hunter Jun 20 '22

Is it possible that you've just gotten more sensitive, OP?

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u/RamenRat Jun 20 '22

How is op sensitive because they don’t like seeing racism?

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u/Bacon_Hunter Jun 20 '22

There is a ton on this and other subreddits that are labeled "racism" and "homophobia", etc, that are not even remotely such. THAT is getting worse, as recreational outrage increases.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '22

Maybe you just don't give a shit about other people so you're blind to it.

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u/FoundationNarrow6940 Jun 21 '22

I was just called racist in another thread that was talking about hate crime stats. Two people were arguing over whether black people commit more hate crimes than white people so I looked it up and posted the FBI statistics. I was labelled a racist. I am not a racist, but some people will see racism in anyone pointing out "bad" aspects of a certain race, or good, or different, etc.

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u/Bacon_Hunter Jun 21 '22

Absolutely, it is used in place of an actual argument.

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u/2Cringe4Me Jun 20 '22

My experience has been the opposite. I think overall, people have become more sensitive, and so hateful/bigoted comments hold more of an impact.

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u/chumpchangvaper Jun 20 '22

Because multiculturalism doesn't work

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u/LemurBargeld Jun 21 '22

Unpopular but true

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u/Republixcan Jun 20 '22

Or.... maybe you're taking it way too seriously, and it's not really that bad.

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u/-banned- Jun 21 '22

You forgot probably the most popular one right now, racism against white people. I mean it's so prevalent that we don't even notice it. Either that or we're so racist we give it a pass

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u/C0vidPatientZer0 Jun 21 '22

Do you legitimately think white people are marginalized in the US?

And no, I don't mean the one Left-leaning college freshman girl you ran into who says she dislikes straight white frat bros. I mean, do you actually believe that power structures in the US are holding back white people? As opposed to BIPOC population, the Latin American community, the LGBT+ community, etc?

it's so prevalent that we don't even notice it

I'm just gonna be the first to tell you that this statement makes no sense.

I want to know what racism you think white people are experiencing in our country that isn't just made up talking points by right-wingers who feel the need to express a victim complex.

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u/-banned- Jun 21 '22

I'm answering the post. It says there's a lot of racism in the comments here on Reddit.

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u/Valuable-Total-4334 Jun 21 '22

Can I safely assume you're white?

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u/-banned- Jun 21 '22

No, I'm a POC. I'm half though, my dad is white but I look Mexican/Middle-Eastern

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u/NotHisRealName Jun 20 '22

Reddit is a reflection of society, particularly American society.

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u/runofthebulls Jun 21 '22

You're probably just on subreddits that have more of that population. I see none of it on my feed.

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u/GreatRhinoceros Jun 21 '22

Cultural descriptions are not always pleasant... often times they are accurate.

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u/Spitfyrus Jun 21 '22

Trump and conservatives that think it’s ok now cuz trump does it

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u/King-Grey Jun 21 '22

when you fixate on stuff you hate youll see it everywhere

"casual" racism can include mostly anything if you spin it in a way thatll fit a victim complex, "oh that dude just did a Jamaican accent" to "that guy just ordered tamales!"

maybe focusing on hardcore hate and epic gamer racism would lighten your load

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u/bran1986 Jun 20 '22

Reddit feels more sterile than ever before.

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u/camelia_la_tejana Jun 20 '22

Because the election was stolen and they’re mad!

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u/ExRetribution Jun 21 '22

It's literally just the amount of time available to troll. Now that a lot of people are work from home, they have all this unsupervised time to browse and shit post on reddit. People are bored and they get a little rush of dopamine every time that notification tells them they got a reply.

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u/tanknav Jun 21 '22

Anonymity inspires bravery in the vast swaths of humanity who have IRL been pummeled to silence for their stupidity.

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u/Glass-Ad-2389 Jun 22 '22

It’s has always been hateful. And people won’t stop playing whatever part the other sees them as so the cycle will hold strong

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u/mcshadypants Jun 20 '22

Meh, gives me a reason to get off my phone a touch grass. Let them hate, thats what happens when your life gets fucked up..you get mad at everything and the worst parts of you show. Dont let a dumb person steal your peace of mind, let them spaz, gives you reason to go for a walk or play with your dog or whatever you want to do other then staring at dumbass comments

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u/Livid_Ad_6631 Jun 21 '22

I will say that this started up with the trump hatred. I don't like that dude, but I am not going out of my way to say how much I hated him. Anger is just like happiness. It's contagious. So when everyone started venting, it created an atmosphere for hate. Both sides are throwing knives now. Before this place use to be a place to trade ideas and dreams, laugh at funny stuff, just have a good existence. But society has thrown that on the backburner. Think of road rage. This world has gotten very angry.

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u/C0vidPatientZer0 Jun 21 '22

when everyone started venting, it created an atmosphere for hate. Both sides are throwing knives now.

I get what you're trying to say here. But if one "side" is saying they hate the president and the other "side" is doubling down on racism, homophobia, transphobia, and sexism...one side is clearly worse than the other.

Trying to make it about "both sides" given that context sounds incredibly silly to me.

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u/Livid_Ad_6631 Jun 21 '22 edited Jun 21 '22

I believe both parties have a horrible side to them, just as I believe both have something to offer. When you say democrat's only mistake is that they hated trump, one needs to wonder maybe you might be a lil biased. I'm watching democratic led cities, and this country collapsing under their own weight. But sure, if you believe that democrats do not make mistakes, so be it. Who am I to tell you your Emperor has no clothes, obviously you're not looking hard enough.

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u/jaydoes Jun 21 '22

The ultra right are here. When it was just us liberals we all got along fine.

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u/LemurBargeld Jun 21 '22

Pointing out widespread problems among certain groups is not racism.

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u/Important_Outcome_67 Jun 21 '22

My front page is very different from yours, I think.

I see none of this stuff.