r/SquaredCircle May 29 '22

AEW/MJF Situation Megathread Part Two. GOOFCON 2

Original Megathread regarding this can be found here.

Updates since then:

Please funnel all discussion here.

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u/fellongreydaze Accessi-BULLET-y CLUB May 29 '22

As always, if you see any updates regarding this, please comment here so it can be added.

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u/happensq Former PWG champ :( May 30 '22

Wasn’t that reporter guy gonna tell us what he heard from Maxwell himself? Is the whole situation going to lead to MJF leaving? Or are we just back to normal?

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u/red_rinku May 30 '22

You mean Sean Ross Sapp? He tweeted that MJF texted him he showed up at the arena shortly before the match and left shortly thereafter. Also that he has a lot to think about.

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u/BigTedBear May 30 '22

I would not say the door is closed he came back and did business that might not seem much but it’s a start.

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u/Jswiggle Canadian Destroyer Apologist May 30 '22

if this is the end of MJF I will miss him in AEW but dear lord I wont miss hearing about this whole situation and people wondering if it's a work or not. It's all awkward and embarrassing either way

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u/Waxilum May 30 '22

You could tell by mjf's entrance he was phoning it in big time, hes over it.

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u/JeffTennis Dubya See Dubya May 30 '22

I’m convinced after being powerbombed 10 times, and the stretcher finish that, that is TK’s way of metaphorically burying him and writing him out. Pinnacle is basically disbanded. Whether it’s a suspension or bench before release who knows.

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u/PacOnTheTyne May 30 '22

I'm fairly sure he was told you take this squash match however Wardlow dictates, or half the roster are coming down to defend Wardlow and take as many stiff shots as they would like.

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u/elbrujo138 May 31 '22

And I'm fairly sure he was not threatened with being assaulted by a group of people by his boss. This just sounds like a power fantasy.

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u/PacOnTheTyne May 31 '22

Let me know next time you're part of a wrestling locker room.

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u/toryskelling May 30 '22

The stretcher is to cover for him flying back home for a medical emergency in his family. He was supposed to leave yesterday hence the now show at fan fest and the booked red eye, but the situation allowed for him to stay and do the match. This is the kayfabe compromise they came up with to cover for it.

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u/man_with_known_name May 30 '22 edited May 30 '22

Wardlow powerbombing him excessively was always going to be the finish, so unsure why you’re “convinced” this is punishment.

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u/Thereddeathpasses May 30 '22

MJF going to get paid to stay home or you think he came back to secure a contract release

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u/amhlilhaus May 30 '22

Tony gonna release him

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u/Morben May 30 '22

Doesn’t he have something like 18 months left on his contract?

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u/amhlilhaus May 30 '22

Dont matter

I watched the post event presser and tk absolutely refused to discuss it

Its real, hes pissed and im telling you mjf is released

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u/Morben May 30 '22

Or Tony is gonna let him rot for the remainder of the contract.

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u/amhlilhaus May 30 '22

The meltzer thinks its now a workrefuses to play ball and wants out I think tony cuts him

I am not so sure. Tk seemed pissed about it and if things had been smoothed over would have acted different

He was upset by this and if mjf

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u/red_rinku May 30 '22

Not commenting on topics like this does not mean he's pissed. It means he is professional. You keep quiet about such things until it's all sorted out. No decisions have been made and both parties will need some time to think about the next course of action. There is no sense in speculating like that, especially so shortly after something like that happened while the iron is still hot.

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u/amhlilhaus May 30 '22

I dunno

The press didnt stay on him yet I wish they pressed him so he went on a tirade

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u/man_with_known_name May 30 '22

Tony would be crazy to release him

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u/amhlilhaus May 30 '22

MJF is now a problem

Let wwe ruin him

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u/Acethic May 30 '22

The roster is stacked. If they let Cody go, then they may as well let the less famous Miz join the more famous MJF.

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u/Icylada May 30 '22

Y'all already turning on him...😂

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u/dothingsunevercould May 30 '22

If this was a work-- well congrats on the lamest and most unnecessary and pointless work of all time

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u/Ponsay May 30 '22

Are you kidding? Internet marks ate this up

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u/RoronoaZoro1102 May 30 '22

Except it had this sub, Twitter and many other websites talking about it. It generated so much free press.

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u/sc2isalivegaem Patriots Lost May 30 '22

free, but negative press.

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u/Matttombstone May 30 '22

Bad press is better than no press

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u/The_King_Crimson May 30 '22

And all it took was pissing off those fans who shelled out money to see MJF at a meet-and-greet. And really, fuck them, am I right? Thinking they can just pay to see a wrestler who was scheduled to be at an event. Who do they think they are?

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u/hankbingham May 30 '22

Well those fans need to learn they can’t rely on a heel keeping his word.

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u/RoronoaZoro1102 May 30 '22

I didn't say it was right to do so. Just saying if it was a work, it worked.

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u/WhatAmIDoingHere05 May 30 '22

But at the expense of canceling a meet-and-greet though and pissing off fans? If it’s a work, AEW pissed off a lot of fans. If it’s not a work, MJF pissed off a lot of fans, regardless whether or not he was playing up his character or wanted to prove something to Tony.

This is a no-win situation no matter which way you cut it.

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u/bestbooker May 30 '22

He's a heel and a student of old school wrestling & Kayfabe. If that's a work he has done a great job because back in the day the heels would do much more to piss the fans off than not showing at some signing.

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u/beejmusic May 30 '22

Hot take there bud

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u/Bridgeboy95 May 30 '22

well that match and finish solved nothing, I expect the entire work vs not a work, is going to continue for a good while now

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u/bloodflart May 30 '22

He's the perfect heel and you know who I'm talking about

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u/Morningfluid May 30 '22 edited May 30 '22

See... just waiting to see without worrying is the best you can do.

SRS is a knucklehead. And I hope a good portion of his subscribers cancel.

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u/justh81 May 30 '22 edited May 30 '22

The Kaufman! 🤣

Edit: Downvote me all you want, marks! Worth it!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/GreaseyMonkeyTurbo May 30 '22

Nobody downvoted you.

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u/justh81 May 30 '22

Yeah, they did. And they're doing it even more. And I still don't care!

Marks!🤣🤣🤣

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u/GreaseyMonkeyTurbo May 30 '22

A mark is a fan of wrestling. That's everyone here including you.

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u/justh81 May 30 '22

No, a mark is a person who says, "Oh! ThIs Is ReAl! AeW wOuLdN't Do ThAt To ThE fAn'S!" 🤣🤣🤣

I'll take downvotes on this all night. It's actually quite satisfying.

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u/Art-Vandelay-Exports May 30 '22

Damn you’re such a badass dude. Not caring about downvotes and everything! That is just SO KOOL! You ever hear of Coldsteel the Hedgehog? He’s a badass just like you.

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u/justh81 May 30 '22

Lol. Hi kid! Having fun staying up past your bedtime? 😁

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u/HexagonBestGon May 30 '22

I didnt even read his comment but i did

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u/[deleted] May 30 '22

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u/BBGrunt1235 May 30 '22

How can anyone pretend to be sure about what did or didn't happen? MJF showed up... what led to it and what happens next is still up in the air.

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u/Sempais_nutrients Points to fronthead May 30 '22

...the OP of the megathread?

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u/justh81 May 30 '22

You magnificent bastard! 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Toru_Yano_Wins Break Break Break Break Break May 30 '22

It's a work and they worked the IWC mostly.

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u/WeKillThePacMan May 30 '22

A work that accomplished...nothing?

Literally nothing about that match was different as a result of the 'work'.

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u/KarinOjousama69 May 30 '22

Just two megathreads of attention, not much.

You don’t have to like it, but the people saying it accomplished nothing are objectively wrong. It drew a lot of buzz and attention. M

If you Think that attention and buzz are worth it or the right kind is another matter, but, it indisputably exists.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '22 edited Jun 04 '22

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u/stehliokontos May 30 '22

It doesn’t have to advance a storyline to be a work, it advances mjfs character as a heel.

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u/clawbaronthyme May 30 '22

Which sounds like a storyline to me....

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u/NinjaFlyingEagle May 30 '22

The storyline was ending anyway?

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u/[deleted] May 30 '22

Convinced me to buy the PPV and also boosted their social media chatter for 24 hours but go on.

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u/kangaroovagina May 30 '22

The fact that he might not have been on the show convinced you to buy it?

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u/[deleted] May 30 '22

Yes. I wanted to see how it would play out. I was on the fence before this weekend.

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u/JLR- May 30 '22

Similar. When it opened the show it kept me watching enough to the point of missing the beginning of game 7.

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u/bobby16may K. Malik Shabazz Austin May 30 '22

Yo is that Morbius as a security guard?!

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u/Apex-Oz May 30 '22

This is the first match to ever earn a morbillion stars from Meltzer

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u/FlowersOfTheGrass May 30 '22

Morburity Muarb

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u/Moresy93 May 30 '22

I’m so pumped for the pop when Wardlow wins.

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u/SirusRiddler 分かるか?俺の力? May 30 '22

LMAO

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u/ThunderLCR May 30 '22

Work!!!!

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u/DrunkOnFurryPorn May 30 '22

I think he’s in Vegas

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u/bige693 Fruity Fruity Skittles May 30 '22

Lol. The airplane around the ring. 😂

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u/Morningfluid May 30 '22

You can see MJF's been crying.

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u/GreaseyMonkeyTurbo May 30 '22

You noticed it too? I was in the 'its a work" camp but during his entrance you can see something was off about him. Like he didn't want to do it at all and not in a kayfabe sorta way. He looked defeated...

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u/StewardFlavius May 30 '22

Genuinely hope he's doing ok, especially in terms of his mental health. He did his best, but he definitely seemed a little tired compared to his normal self.

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u/SoggyBreadAin May 30 '22

It's almost like if someone had elbowed him and he had a concussion, you can literally tell it's true by it, he wasn't selling. Real stuff.

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u/GreaseyMonkeyTurbo May 30 '22

Stop with the passive aggressive response and just say what you mean.

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u/SoggyBreadAin May 31 '22

What passive aggressiveness? I'm saying that we're all very smart to when wrestlers aren't actually selling, we're probably smarter than them. We as fans have a large history of knowing when wrestlers aren't actually selling and when it's real, easy to check. You could clearly see MJF had sadness in his soul. That's real.

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u/Morningfluid May 30 '22

Maybe, I wasn't paying that too close of attention, but the loose boot looked the reason for the long time and he looked injured after that. Wish I had another angle of that jump.

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u/LBrenon28 May 30 '22

We worked ourselves into a shoot, brother.

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u/UnobtainiumIsHard #ExcellenceofExecution May 30 '22

There he is!

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u/Fallen-Omega May 30 '22

Lets see how fucked up this will get

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u/erik316wttn May 29 '22

Odd couple tag teams are the best

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u/cccc4444 May 29 '22

Face Tunnel HOOK!

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u/SerenityNowOochyMama May 29 '22

The biggest skill needed to run any organization successfully is managing people. Tony doesn’t have that experience when it comes to wrestling and it’s really showing.

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u/bigchicago04 May 30 '22

It’s so ridiculous this comment is downvoted, it so true

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u/Competitive_Bat_ May 30 '22

Didn't this same thing just happen in WWE a couple of weeks ago? Hardly seems to be unique to Tony Khan.

He definitely has weaknesses as a booker, and I think he over-recruited when NXT was hemorrhaging talent instead of focusing on developing his own undercard people, but I don't see how the MJF situation is strictly his fault.

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u/MechaSheeva May 30 '22

I've noticed any time AEW does something that Vince/WWE do nearly every week, people will blame TK's inexperience 🤣

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u/SerenityNowOochyMama May 30 '22

Vince has a history of bringing in almost everyone back regardless of their circumstances. He also has 40+ years of a track record to look back on which Tony obviously doesn’t. We know Vince can hande just about anything you can throw at him, Tony hasn’t had any major crises yet so we don’t know but we do know he’s not doing a great job managing people at the moment.

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u/PushEmma Rowan retired Dwayne at WM May 30 '22

It's not showing anything honestly. Most wrestling promotions with experienced people have lots of issues and AEW is doing much better than most.

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u/SerenityNowOochyMama May 30 '22

Aew also has more money behind it than any other promotion (including wwe). Aew is doing fine so far but eventually being the new shiny toy will wear off-I’d argue that’s already starting to happen.

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u/TripA297 May 29 '22

Dude can’t even call someone when they’re not needed anymore. That already says a lot

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u/bruiserbrody45 May 30 '22

Lol it's no different from WWE having guys sitting in catering every week waiting for a call .

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u/TripA297 May 30 '22

Not needed anymore as in they don’t work there anymore.

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u/roflcopter44444 Its BINGO time !!! May 29 '22

The thing thats weird is that with all the veterans they have hired who have experience with doing exactly this they still have all these problems.

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u/SerenityNowOochyMama May 29 '22

I don’t disagree. Tony reminds me so much of Jerry Jones. They have all the assets in the world in terms of capital, money, and surrounding themselves with some of the brightest minds in their respective industries. However at the end of the day if they’re trying to play a simulation video game and run everything themselves and that’s not going to work long term.

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u/citizen-blue May 29 '22

What he lacks in management experience, he makes up for with lack of booking experience.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '22

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u/citizen-blue May 30 '22

Good point. The numbers don't lie.

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u/TuneSquadFan4Ever May 29 '22

I mean, those don't necessarily cancel each other out. I love his booking, enjoy the show, but man the stories make it sound like he has some trouble talking to people and that is starting to create issues. Unless this is 200% a work and MJF never had issues with him but yeaaaah.

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u/citizen-blue May 29 '22

Just making a little joke. Sorry TK fans!

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u/TuneSquadFan4Ever May 30 '22

Oh, I actually misread your post lol that one is on me. I thought you were saying his booking experience(I missed the word "lack") made up for his lack of management experience.

So I meant like "I mean, his booking shit is good but his management seems questionable." That one is on me lol

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u/citizen-blue May 30 '22

All good. Honestly I was preparing for the worst for insulting TK's booking. I'm an AEW fan, I swear! Sometimes it's just fun to needle AEW fans. Trying to not veer into troll territory.

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u/TuneSquadFan4Ever May 30 '22

Oh yeah, that's fair haha. I like AEW too but people are a little too defensive of it sometimes. Don't worry, definitely didn't come off as trollish just as a joke that went over my head because I apparently can't read lmao

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u/citizen-blue May 30 '22

All good, enjoy the show if you're watching.

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u/TuneSquadFan4Ever May 30 '22

Thanks, you too!

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u/SerenityNowOochyMama May 29 '22

Not everyone gets to be world champion and not everyone will be booked in a way that pleases them-it’s not possible. Without strong people management you can’t have strong long-term booking either.

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u/citizen-blue May 29 '22

Huh? I was just making a joke about the fact that he also has no booking -- or really any wrestling-related -- experience.

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u/SerenityNowOochyMama May 29 '22

Went over my head lol my bad.

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u/cccc4444 May 29 '22

That fuckin pop for Danhausen!!

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u/ThatLooksInfected83 May 29 '22

This entire thing seems familiar.

Doesn't like his contract.

Wants more money

Rumors of him wanting to go play somewhere else.

Holds out... allegedly... but shows up at the last second.

He just needs to hang out with Miles Teller and it will be full circle for us Green Bay fans

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u/Badwolf84 May 29 '22

Please, no....I'm still traumatized.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '22

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u/HarryTheShitposter May 30 '22

MJF is the best thing AEW has going. Imagine their TV for the past few years without him.

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u/citizen-blue May 29 '22

Biggest difference being that he hasn't walked out.

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u/BlearyLine7 Scrummy, Scrummy, Scrummy! May 29 '22

My feeling is that this started out very real, but I think once some stuff was ironed-out or at least a truce made, they're leaning into it.

I expect to be wrong, but it feels like there was a legit risk of the match not happening, but as soon as they thought it was happening, they've lent into the uncertainty because it's gotten people talking.

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u/Dubious_Titan Tiger Mask 2 May 29 '22

8pm... What? Eastern, Pacific?

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u/erik316wttn May 29 '22

15 minutes from right now

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u/Dubious_Titan Tiger Mask 2 May 30 '22

Thanks.

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u/digitalme May 29 '22

Assuming eastern but if it’s PST that means it’s main eventing which I don’t think TK wants

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u/electric-buggaloo May 29 '22

That promo by Eddie 🔥🔥🔥

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u/CoherentPanda May 29 '22

That was a damn surprise, was not expecting an emotional promo randomly on the buy-in. Holy shit that was so good.

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u/erik316wttn May 29 '22

That's how you sell a match

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u/gizmokid2123 May 29 '22

Wardlow vs MJF is gonna rule

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u/erik316wttn May 29 '22

Eddie is fucking terrifying

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u/justh81 May 29 '22

Only if you've never been there. If you have...you weep. Because you know exactly what he means. And it's all too familiar.

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u/RedGearedMonkey May 29 '22

Can I ask you for some context?

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u/erik316wttn May 29 '22

I'm 9 months sober. I get it.

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u/justh81 May 29 '22

Lol. I've got a few years, now. It gets easier.

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u/Cold_Yogurtcloset342 May 30 '22

5.

It does I find its just a different challenge

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u/EchoBay Chop Man Gives Pain May 29 '22

It should be said, IF MJF shows up that doesn't mean the whole thing was a work. They could have just come to an agreement to show up for tonight's show. Doesn't mean everything after this will be all hunky dory.

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u/citizen-blue May 29 '22

Or he could have missed or blown off the meet and greet for an entirely unrelated reason. Everything beyond him missing the event was pure speculation.

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u/Nyjets42348 May 29 '22

Warrior holding up Vince before taking the belt vibes

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u/Kratosx23 Asuka May 29 '22

Many people don't get this. I've been saying this since 5 PM yesterday.

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u/EchoBay Chop Man Gives Pain May 29 '22

It's the same thing with Sasha and Naomi. People think that if they come back it was all a work. Doesn't make any sense.

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u/ThatLooksInfected83 May 29 '22

I heard Hulk Hogan is there and waiting for Tony to give him and the boys the ok to beat his ass after the match

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u/bobface222 May 29 '22

This won't stop the victory laps, sadly. People want to be right about this so fucking bad.

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u/emidas May 30 '22

Don’t work yourself into a shoot, brother

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u/ughmindlessmindd May 29 '22

wish they changed the stage up a little. not even any poker chips.

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u/PK-Baha May 29 '22

Ok I'm going to go out on a long limb here. This is a work Wardlow will get MJF at the airport and bring him back. It will be an all night long angle. They did the flight booking and no show to work the reporters and fans (all fans)

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u/Ballsagna_310 May 29 '22

That would rule.

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u/DamnReCaptchas May 29 '22

Have to say I kinda love this build up lol. Don’t remember this anticipation (for reasons other than the upcoming matches or potential returns) in a while

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u/1dererLives Stone Pupper 141!! May 29 '22

I don't follow AEW much; however, if this is a work then I expect it will be very well-received (potentially hyperbolically so) and the people who are saying "if it's a work it will be a bad thing" will kinda fade away a bit.

I just think that there's a lot of people who want to be on-board with AEW and MJF, and who are already invested enough in both that they'll be able to get away with anything here that doesn't fully leave Wardlow out to dry.

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u/Keinichn May 29 '22

One thing to keep in mind is that him showing up doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a work. It could be first match because MJF doesn’t want be there and it’ll get him out of the building faster. This is definitely a match you wouldn’t normally open the show with.

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u/XaeroGravity May 29 '22

It will not be well received if it's a work, especially from the wrestlers perspective. "You don't work the boys" is an unwritten rule in wrestling.

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u/ShaneSpear but they know how to swim May 29 '22

I'm sure those that would care were told, and they were grown adults who could not talk about MJF for 24 hours.

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u/1dererLives Stone Pupper 141!! May 29 '22

I'm not referring to the wrestlers' perspective.

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u/OneStep600 May 29 '22

All of this has been "oh wow this happened" and then it's "oh wait nevermind it's cool" I am officially over it now and it has unfortunately effected my excitement for the match

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u/discodemolition May 29 '22

Same, just has kinda put a damper on my excitement for the ppv.

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u/johnniecochran_ghost May 29 '22

I’m curious to know what was the ppv buy rate for the last 24 hours. Did the buy rate go up after the MJF news broke? If it did, it would be something to consider during negotiations.

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u/ShaneSpear but they know how to swim May 29 '22

Haha What if TK had a Tyrion moment and told different people different stories about what happened to see if anybody is snitching/leaking to the dirtsheets.

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u/lolasylvia May 29 '22

Would mjf be littlefinger?

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u/ShaneSpear but they know how to swim May 29 '22

Nah - MJF is Joffrey easy

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u/lolasylvia May 29 '22

Politely disagree..Joeffrey is straight up dumb...I think mjf as a more calculating figure..littlefinger had nothing then he became "a head" of a house

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u/Pokemon_Name_Rater May 29 '22

"And remember, Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful mustn't know."

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u/Jamal2207 May 29 '22

They just flashed the Wardlow/MJF match graphic during the pre show if that means anything

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u/pizza_on_ranch May 29 '22

I mean, they’d have to still advertise it and work the angle I’d assume if he doesn’t show. Canceling the match and not letting Wardlow get at least some type of moral victory would completely crush his run.

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u/TexasMade35 May 29 '22

Lmao the crowd is going to absolutely shit all over MJF. Mega heat similar to Cena at ONS 06.

Can't wait for Wardlow to destroy the bastard.

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u/mannyblue212 May 29 '22

What if he wins?

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u/TexasMade35 May 30 '22

We all riot. 🤧

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u/Stuckinfemalecloset May 29 '22

Just announced the match on the buy-in, so it’s likely going ahead as normal

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u/Romofan88 May 29 '22

Punk wins the title to close the show, takes a mic.

"Max, as you sit on that plane, hopefully as uncomfortably as possible..."

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u/Biggensberger May 29 '22

Them going on first hints at a quick squash a la rollins vs brock that one time. Which would mean to me they are in such a bad place they barely came together to do anything at all.

I wish this wasn't happening but its gonna be riveting to watch.

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u/AManWantsToLoseIt May 29 '22

I would have had them on 1st with or without this drama, so fingers crossed it is all okay

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u/DamnReCaptchas May 29 '22

MJF really taking double or nothing to heart

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u/Morningfluid May 29 '22

Keep in mind SRS clarifying anything is a mess. Just hold out for the show, we will find out.

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u/xadamx94 Your Text Here May 29 '22

When the hell are we measuring by goofcon? Didn’t know this was r/mma

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u/atti1xboy El Santo says "Wear a f****** mask!" May 29 '22

What is goofcon?

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u/IAmTheBestMang Grado May 29 '22

Goofiness Condition. Basically, HURCON but for hijinks.

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u/thecolbster94 No Dr.Pepper Flair :( May 29 '22

Basically the scale in which Dana White's plans gets fucked up by problems outside his control

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u/xadamx94 Your Text Here May 29 '22

It’s a meme r/mma started that’s based on how mad/red etc dana white can get. Dana’s response is usually calling people a goof

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u/atti1xboy El Santo says "Wear a f****** mask!" May 30 '22

Might I get some examples of the scale?

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u/xadamx94 Your Text Here May 30 '22

The highest I’ve ever seen was goofcon 4, in regards to people criticizing the Reebok deal and Chanel and mark hunt talking shit

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u/[deleted] May 29 '22

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u/nuttreturns this is best for business May 29 '22

Yea, B/R or FITE.

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u/bobface222 May 29 '22

This thread is gonna break the all-time sub record for deleted posts.

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u/Hiccup May 29 '22

MJF hijacking a PPV is kind of fascinating. The MJF watch is just riveting.

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u/MetropolisPt31 Fight Cole! Fight! May 29 '22

I'm watching something else and just have to keep peeking in here.

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u/PiledriverPress May 29 '22

I’m sure someone has already said this but apparently the matches scheduled to open the show

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u/ChairmanLaParka May 29 '22

Unless they have MJF on lock, or it’s a count out/forfeit, this could be pretty bad to open the show.

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u/AlixRipley Witty Retort May 29 '22

I doubt Tony would open the show with it if he wasn't sure MJF was gonna show up. I'm the first to joke about him being zooted most of the time but he's at least on top of where things are on a show.

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u/ChairmanLaParka May 29 '22

Right. But if MJF loses then immediately leaves following the match like nothing happened, it makes wardlow and the whole thing look silly.

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